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From Emmanuel Bernard <emman...@hibernate.org>
Subject Re: Hibernate Lucene trademark issues
Date Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:04:47 GMT
Thanks Doug,
I've decided to renamed the project. As the French people said when a 
king use to die: Hibernate Lucene is dead, Long life to Hibernate Search :-)

Keep up the good work guys.

Emmanuel

Doug Cutting wrote:
> Here's my understanding.  Lucene is a trademark of Apache.  In the 
> context of search technology, Lucene should only be used to refer to 
> Apache Lucene, and that must be unambiguous.  Thus if there's a chance 
> that someone might think you're talking about "JBoss Lucene" then you 
> must make it clear that you're really referring to Apache's Lucene.
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Marks
>
> Apache's Trademark policy isn't totally spelled out, but there's been 
> a proposal to follow Eclipse's guidelines:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php
>
> Under these guidelines, a product named "Hibernate Lucene" would not 
> be permitted, but "Hibernate for Lucene" would.
>
> Doug
>
> Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm Emmanuel Bernard from JBoss.
>> I'm the current lead developer of the Hibernate Lucene integration 
>> module.
>> The goal of this project is to facilitate the integration of a search 
>> capability to Hibernate based applications. And guess what, I use 
>> Lucene ;-)
>> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/annotations/reference/en/html/lucene.html 
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-dev%40lists.jboss.org/msg00392.html 
>>
>>
>> I realized this week end that the 'Hibernate Lucene' name might 
>> infringe the Apache Lucene trademark policy.
>> http://www.cafepress.com/lucene/ seems to state that Lucene is a 
>> trademark of the Apache Software Foundation (nice golf shirt BTW)
>> But I wasn't able to find any document explaining the fair use of the 
>> Lucene brand (the license as well as the notice seem to be silent on 
>> this subject).
>>
>> Even if Lucene in not trademarked, what do you consider a fair use of 
>> your brand? I'm happy to rename my project, I guess the initial 
>> choice was more a tribute to your project than anything else.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> PS: please forward this email to the appropriate persons if this is 
>> not the case already (PMC or whatever)
>>
>>
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