Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-lucene-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37377 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2004 22:16:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2004 22:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20406 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 22:16:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-lucene-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 20224 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 22:16:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact lucene-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Lucene Developers List" Reply-To: "Lucene Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list lucene-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 20211 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 22:16:54 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of flamefew@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.207 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.170.207) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:14:59 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so1332878rne for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:14:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MgK9orljMfcBz9aSLqerlUafPfp05dr629AZ8Q+tROFpgtgLF4RLXlO7ebBAt8wNQgucL3Ghj4ld31zxWUbs/9lovGAc/xREIgWeE9/6R0Ey4GxjvZ7sgywY0slNl36ay8l3fzz7U6I8aDMueNzbnEJRsXYJ6UD3VMgeorCUNPk= Received: by 10.38.90.74 with SMTP id n74mr2630477rnb; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.86.19 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:47:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31cc3736041216134766b75531@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:47:31 -0500 From: Henri Yandell Reply-To: Henri Yandell To: Lucene Developers List Subject: Re: kick-start: Lucene to top-level project In-Reply-To: <20041213171657.53504.qmail@web12705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041213171657.53504.qmail@web12705.mail.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lucene PMCers are: jvanzyl, husted, ehatcher, otis, carlson. Doug Cutting was invited in January 2004, but no reply. Hen On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:16:57 -0800 (PST), Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > Regarding PMC members - I think I'm all alone there :( > > Otis > > --- Erik Hatcher wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 2004, at 9:54 AM, Bernhard Messer wrote: > > > Currently i'm not able to see how much adminitrative work this will > > > > > raise. Are there any known apache projects already moved from a > > > subproject to TLP ? Maybe they could give us some important hints > > what > > > effort will come over the community. > > > > I've started a thread on the Jakarta PMC list, and have gotten > > several > > very helpful and supportive replies. > > > > What other Lucene committers are PMC members? Otis is. Others? > > > > Sam Ruby had the following advice: > > > > >> The board has a bias against self-referential definitions (the > > 'foo' > > >> project is for managing software related to the 'foo' project - > > >> believe it or not, this happens all too often). So naming the > > >> proposed project something like search is a good idea. > > >> > > >> The board tends to prefer projects whose scopes don't overlap with > > > > >> other projects. That does not appear to be a problem here. In > > other > > >> cases, this involves highlighting differences in technical > > approaches > > >> taken by two "competing" projects. > > >> > > >> Finally, some members of the board have a strong bias against > > >> umbrella projects. My advice here is to not emphasize this aspect > > of > > >> the proposal. Overall, the fact that this reduces the size of the > > > > >> Jakarta project umbrella, those with this bias will be happy. > > > > In other words, I guess we should de-emphasize the idea of bring > > Nutch > > under the umbrella, but focus on how Lucene itself belongs outside > > Jakarta because it is its own community and does not depend on any > > Jakarta projects, and that we will bring in non-Java ports over time. > > > > Next step is to create the proposal, following in the footsteps of > > Jetspeed or Struts for example. If no one else volunteers for it, > > I'll > > craft it sometime this week hopefully. > > > > Erik > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: lucene-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: lucene-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: lucene-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: lucene-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: lucene-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: lucene-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org