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From Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: kick-start: Lucene to top-level project
Date Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:51:23 GMT
Terry (and anyone else who's wondering).

Erik didn't mention it, but we would also like to bring in various
Lucene ports under a single roof.  This has many advantages, and I
won't get into those now.

Regarding Nutch and Lucene - Nutch is a whole 'solution' for the 'how
do I crawl the web/intranet/set of web sites and make it searchable a
la Google or any other search engine' problem.  Lucene is just one of
the components there - just the piece that handles indexing and then
searching.  There are also pieces that crawl the web, schedule links
for (re)crawling, doing link analysis, page ranking, parsing different
document types, etc.

It would be nice to see all these closely related projects together.
 Lucene
 Nutch
 dotLucene
 CLucene
 PyLucene
 Plucene
 Lupy

We'll have to talk to communities and developers behind each of the
Lucene ports above and see if they are willing to participate.  Some
already expressed their interest on lucene-*, as well as directly with
me.

Otis

--- Terry Steichen <terry@net-frame.com> wrote:

> Forgive me for asking a stupid question, but why?  Sounds like a fair
> amount of work is involved.  What is the benefit of making Lucene a
> "top-level Apache project"?  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Terry
> 
> PS: Heck, just to prove it's probably a dumb question, I still don't
> even understand either the technical or organizational
> relationship(s) between Lucene and Nutch.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Erik Hatcher 
>   To: Lucene List 
>   Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:18 PM
>   Subject: kick-start: Lucene to top-level project
> 
> 
>   The idea of creating a new top-level Apache project, namely 
>   search.apache.org, has been floating around for a while.  The idea
> is 
>   to bring Lucene under this new umbrella, along with incubating
> Nutch 
>   through the standard Apache incubation process with it aimed at
> coming 
>   under this same top-level project too.
> 
>   This message is to kick-start this process in a more formal manner.
> 
>   Creating a new top-level project to house Lucene, and the effort to
> 
>   incubate Nutch can occur in parallel, I believe.  Nutch will follow
> the 
>   path outlined here:
> 
>   http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html
> 
>   The creation of the top-level project has been somewhat outlined
> here:
> 
>   http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaPMCTopLevelProjectApplication
> 
>   Most of the effort is administrative, such as selecting a Chair,
> PMC 
>   members, and putting together a plan of action.  Along with this
> move, 
>   we should also consider switching to Subversion and migrating from 
>   Bugzilla to JIRA.
> 
>   Are there any folks opposed to these plans?
> 
>   I personally am happy to champion this effort and I will do what I
> can 
>   within the time constraints of the rest of my life.  What we need
> are 
>   other volunteers willing to assist with these efforts.  First we
> need 
>   to write the proposals, choose the initial PMC members and Chair
> (who I 
>   assume should be his majesty Doug, if he's willing to be in that
> role), 
>   and deal with the flurry of e-mails on the Jakarta PMC e-mail list.
> 
>   More technical effort will be needed to manage the publishing of
> the 
>   website - it would be nice to overhaul the Lucene site - manage the
> 
>   code repositories, and automate the bulk of the release process so
> that 
>   we can simply click and release.
> 
>   What tasks have I overlooked?
> 
>   Discussion?  Suggestions?
> 
>   Erik
> 
> 
>  
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