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From Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Date Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:12:11 GMT
I just looked at project/appex in the Sandbox.

Assuming Andy was really saying "No, appex project is not going
anywhere.", I would suggest that Clemens & Co. look at
jakarta-lucene-sandbox/projects/appex/src/java/search (*DataSource*,
*Broker*, DocumentHandler.java, contenthandler/*, etc.), as that seems
like the place where the actual code is, and there are some classes, at
least judging by their names, that fit that proposal in luceneplan.html
document.

Otis
P.S.
Personally, I find all those directories confusing.  Most of them are
either empty, with an empty placeholder file, or they are for
Centipede, a build tool.
That's why I suggest that Clemens looks at those sources, borrow what
he needs to borrow, and then we can slowly retire this project.

Again, this assumes that Kelvin and Andy agree that Clemens' web
crawler contribution has gotten further and satisfies their needs, and
they see no need for a separate appex project.




--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoliver@apache.org> wrote:
> Andy's Centipede tool?  humm...I actually had little to do with 
> authoring that.  
> 
> The intent was to have a
> 
> jakarta-lucene/sandbox/appex website generated/authored there (so
> that 
> we could maintain project documentation).
> Having centipede there was just because it was the easiest way I knew
> of 
> to have adequate XML documentation
> accross potentially several subprojects, have seperate module builds 
> without me having to write anything.
> 
> The packaging scheme matches roughly what the packaging scheme was 
> without me messing with it too much.  The
> intent was to put the refactored classes in 
> org.apache.lucene.appex.blabla.  
> 
> I think the LARM thing looks like it has superceded and suprassed
> this. 
>  I see no need for duplication.
> 
>  > Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
> 
> Perhaps you could engage them in a discussion and collaborate there.
> 
> I'm swamped again, but I'll check back and do something about it if
> it 
> doesn't reach the goals in the lucene plan doc.
> 
> -Andy
> 
> Kelvin Tan wrote:
> 
> >I think this might be my cue. :)
> >
> >Right now, appex consists (afik) of the Andy's Centipede tool, and
> the 
> >indexing framework I checked in. Right now, the package structure is
> rather 
> >confusing and its not immediately clear where the sources are for
> these two 
> >components. That's partially my fault, I think.
> >
> >Wrt to the indexing framework, the original intention was that after
> it's 
> >checked in, interested parties could check it out, and hopefully
> refactor 
> >it into something useful. That hasn't really happened much though. 
> >
> >Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Kelvin
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Andy,
> >>
> >>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox
> going
> >>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
> >>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be
> clear
> >>myself.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Otis
> >>
> >>
> >>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoliver@apache.org> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Hello Andre,
> >>>>
> >>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
> >>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>project
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
> >>>>they
> >>>>need help with anything.
> >>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
> >>>>not
> >>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
> >>>>so
> >>>>maybe you can put somelife into it.  At this point I even forgot
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>what
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more
> work,
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>how
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
> >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
> >>>>
> >>>>Andrew?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
> >>>didn't
> >>>or
> >>>something.  They checked things in
> >>>elsewhere.  Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress.  I
> >>>look
> >>>
> >>>forward to more information on it.
> >>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
> >>>directory
> >>>is
> >>>in order.
> >>>
> >>>-Andy
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Otis
> >>>>P.S.
> >>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- Andre Valente <avalente@ksventures.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>was not
> >>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been
> working
> >>>>>with
> >>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
> >>>>>application
> >>>>>extensions described in:
> >>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
> >>>>>such as the crawlers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>Andre Valente


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