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From: Doug Cutting <DCutting@grandcentral.com>
To: 'Lucene Developers List' <lucene-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Contributor Document class repository proposal
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:33:29 -0800
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Peter,

I like the proposal, but I am not sure that Jakarta should host the
contributions.  That starts to imply that they're a part of the Lucene
project, and might be supported by it, etc.

I note that many of the examples you provide are simply pointers to archived
mail messages.  The lucene-user mailing list is archived at:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lucene-user%40jakarta.apache.org/

The mail archive even stores attachments, e.g.:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lucene-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00319.html

So all it seems to me that we need to do is have someone mail a contribution
to the lucene-user list as an attachment, and then add a pointer from a
Lucene "Resources" page to the message.  If folks want to host contributions
in other places, then they can just mail a link to the maintainer of the
resource page.

Is that okay?  Is there an important reason that you think these
contributions should be hosted by Jakarta?  

Of course some contributions should be added directly to Lucene.  I'm
hesitant to add contributions that require libraries that Lucene is not
already dependent on, or that are not included in the standard JDK.  But,
for example, pure JDBC code would be OK since JDBC is part of Java.  (Yes,
JDBC is only a part of 1.2 and up, and Lucene still runs in 1.1, but JDK 1.2
or greater is required to compile Lucene and to take advantage of all
features...)  Similarly, once JDK 1.4 is commonly used, then XML support
could be added to Lucene.

So we should keep an eye out for generally useful, well-written
contributions that do not require additional libraries as candiates for
inclusion in Lucene.

In summary, I am +1 for adding Peter as a Lucene committer for the purposes
of developing and maintaining a 'resources' page.

Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: carlson@bookandhammer.com [mailto:carlson@bookandhammer.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:48 AM
> To: Lucene Developers List
> Subject: Contributor Document class repository proposal
> 
> 
> Contributor Document class repository proposal
> 
> Issue: One of the areas that many developers are duplicating 
> efforts is 
> in the creation of Documents. Although creating a Document is 
> specific 
> to the data, most people deal with common formats such as XML, csv, 
> text, pdf, HTML, databases...
> 
> Potential solution:
> Allow developers / users to contribute there own Document classes.
> How:
> Create a new area called "resources" (this seems to be 
> consistent with 
> other Jakarta projects) under the About area on the main 
> Lucene web page.
> This will link to a page which will includes contributions by other 
> people that is not part of the main Lucene distribution.
> I think a good example of this is
> http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/resources.html
> or
> http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/resources.html
> 
> The contribution will be organized with a name, author, contribution 
> date and description. The name will be a link to download the 
> tar or zip 
> file.
> One question is if the source becomes part of the Lucene 
> project, or if 
> it owned and maintained by the contributor. In many of the other 
> projects, there is a link to an external website and an email 
> address of 
> who maintains it. I would suggest that it becomes part of the Lucene 
> project.
> This web page will be maintained by me.
> 
> The source of these contributions will be added into the CVS at the
> Apache/jakarta-lucene/contributions  level (to be added).
> This repository will be maintained by me. Being a Document class 
> contributor does not give you write access to the cvs tree.
> 
> Please let me know if people think this is a valuable 
> contribution and 
> are willing to support it.
> Also, any part of the solution is open for revision based on feedback.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
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