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From Miljenko Cvjetko <mcvje...@holisticware.net>
Subject Re: Thoughts on 1.3
Date Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:35:48 GMT
Sorry for formatting. Pasted it directly from google docs into 
thunderbird and here it looked OK.

sorry one more time

mel
On 2014.02.03 15:32, Miljenko Cvjetko wrote:
> *
>
> Hi
>
>
> I have tried to post this one through the nabble on Nov 25th and 26th. 
> The I got dragged away with projects,  then holidays and again 
> projects. Now I have a bit easier, so I'd like to add few thoughts.
>
>
> My name is Miljenko Cvjetko and I'm the one that forked log4net on 
> GitHub, did some structural changes on the solution/project in order 
> to "port" it to Xamarin Mobile profiles (Xamarin.iOS and 
> Xamarin.Android) and contacted Stefan for a permission to submit 
> log4net Xamarin Component to Xamarin Componet Store.
>
>
> Stefan asked me whether I can put some thoughts and more light on the 
> subject in this thread about the Version 1.3.
>
>
> There were several questions both on mailing-lists and forums about 
> availability of the log4net for Mono Mobile profiles (Xamarin Mobile) 
> and I was personally faced with that issue when our team worked on 
> Application that uses mobile port of SharpSNMP, which uses log4net. 
> The quick and dirty workaround was to exclude the dependency (and 
> comment it out).
>
>
> The era of mobile enterprise apps is about to begin and a lot of code 
> will be ported from desktop and server side (ASP.net) to mobile in 
> order to reuse code. Almost all utilities/libraries/tools for .net 
> have disadvantage/handicap that they are written for desktop and/or 
> ASP.net, thus using APIs and/or concepts that are not acceptable or 
> possible on mobile devices. To name some: System.Web assembly (used by 
> log4net) and Configuration utilities which need Xml support.
>
>
> What I actually did is simply split log4net into 2 assemblies, the one 
> with client profile called log4net.client  and the other with only 
> ASP.net specific stuff with old name log4net. The code was 
> source-linked, so log4net was for external usage the same as it used 
> to be.
>
>
> All unit tests passed w/o problems.
>
>
> So I would suggest You to do as Stefan suggested:
>
>
> 1. "to split log4net-13.dll so that the main assembly can be used for 
> the client profile and a separate assembly contains the stuff that 
> requires System.Web - this way we no longer need the -cp builds."
>
>
> 2. add separate assemblies for async/await (netfx 4.5, mono 3.x), so 
> people are not forced into 4.5.
>
>
> I have worked with log4net on Xamarin's alpha channel for last 2 
> months and experienced no problems only stuff I would suggest to add 
> async wrappers (suggestion 2.).
>
>
> Also Stefan asked me to merge code into 1.2.x (1.2.13) branch, so I'll 
> do that in next few days and issue pull request as soon as I'm done. I 
> will try to be least intrusive, so will probably end up with:
>
>
> 1. src folder with ASP.net project (dependencies), so it is the same 
> for regression and backward compatibility
>
> 2. src-client (or whatever) with client profile - this might be even 
> PCL - I have to see.
>
> 3. src-mobile for iOS and Android assemblies.
>
>
> Xamarin Component stuff will be added later on.
>
>
> I hope I did not bother You too much and thank You
>
>
> best regards
>
>
> Mel
>
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-- 
Miljenko Cvjetko dipl.ing. ET
	Direktor/CEO
	Projektant rjes(enja/Solution Architect	
	Razvojni programer/Senior developer
	Voditelj projekta/Project Manager

IX juz(na obala 13
Kajzerica Zagreb
T: 385 1 7775555
M: 385 91 557 447 3
F: 385 1 7779556
e: mcvjetko@holisticware.net
w: http://holisticware.net


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