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From Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Desire for a Gitter channel?
Date Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:33:10 GMT
Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to make
sure ALL decisions happen on the ML.

Gary

On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikes@apache.org> wrote:

> I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both at
> the same time.
>
>
> On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
>> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism of
>> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/
>>
>> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathurthi@rwth-aachen.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid
>>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates.
>>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice — unless we
>>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching + >5gb
of
>>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise and I
>>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2].
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Chandra
>>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing
>>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-Gitter-vs-Slack
>>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <msa@schor.com>, wrote:
>>>
>>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat?
>>>>
>>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many.
>>>>
>>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our
>>>>
>>> project,
>>>
>>>> Apache UIMA).
>>>>
>>>> -Marshall Schor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has a lot
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>
>>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without someone
>>>>>
>>>> funding
>>>
>>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab too I
>>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj <
>>>>> chandra.tungathurthi@rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific
>>>>>>
>>>>> reason to
>>>
>>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks & regards,
>>>>>> Chandra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Gary Gregory
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel?
>>>>>> To: Log4J Users List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure to
>>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary On
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mon, Jul
>>>
>>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: >
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home
>>>
>>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> could be
>>>
>>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overflow
>>>
>>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> very
>>>
>>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also, I
>>>>>>
>>>>> find
>>>
>>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing
>>>>>>
>>>>> Stack
>>>
>>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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