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Subject: Re: Web Service Appender
From: Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
To: Log4J Users List <log4j-user@logging.apache.org>
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Wow I can't type good. Thanks.


On 1 May 2014 21:42, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:

> Flume, not Felix.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 1, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Your best bets for this are certainly Felix, JMS, or maybe even Syslog
> (the
> > new RFC version) if you've got a server set up for that already. I'm
> going
> > to back up Ralph's idea here that Felix really is the best way to go fo=
r
> > this situation. It's one of the primary use cases for Felix (e.g., in
> EC2,
> > it's great for centralized logging).
> >
> >
> >> On 1 May 2014 12:54, Evan J <maps.this.address@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is just gone off the tangent line... in a good way though.
> >>
> >> We are going to try to push back and redesign the process to just simp=
ly
> >> make use of JMSAppender to put messages on a queue and have JMS client=
s
> >> consume them (and ultimately insert the logs into a database -- maybe
> use
> >> JSON for messages). The MQ runs within an integration broker, hence an
> >> initial idea of routing logging SOAP/service calls through the same
> broker
> >> that handles/routes other web services.
> >>
> >> This whole marshalling and unmarshalling is very inefficient, on top o=
f
> a
> >> fact that this proposed logging service is entirely internal to begin
> with.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ralph Goers <
> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This thread originally started to ask about logging to a web service
> >> (that
> >>> term usually implies SOAP).  It seems to have gone off into another
> >>> direction and I=E2=80=99m not sure if there is still a question here =
someone
> >> wants
> >>> answered.  If you are making a proposal for an enhancement to Log4j 2=
 I
> >> am
> >>> not sure what it is.
> >>>
> >>> Ralph
> >>>
> >>> On May 1, 2014, at 8:51 AM, <Walter_Marvin@DellTeam.com>
> >>> <Walter_Marvin@DellTeam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dell - Internal Use - Confidential
> >>>> I take it we were discussing the possibilities for high speed
> >> production
> >>> logging. Previous people have rightly pointed out that a simplistic
> >>> approach using soap might be ineffecient
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Ralph Goers [mailto:ralph.goers@dslextreme.com]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:36 AM
> >>>> To: Log4J Users List
> >>>> Subject: Re: Web Service Appender
> >>>>
> >>>> Thats fine. I'm just not really sure what the question is any more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 1, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Walter_Marvin@DellTeam.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dell - Internal Use - Confidential
> >>>>> As I say there are a lot of architectural options. We need to decid=
e
> >> on
> >>> one. Having th ability to modify log4j should make whatever
> architecture
> >> is
> >>> chosen cleaner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Walter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Ralph Goers [mailto:ralph.goers@dslextreme.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:16 AM
> >>>>> To: Log4J Users List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Web Service Appender
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What you are describing is why I added the integration to Flume. It
> is
> >>> very, very good at collecting log events and forwarding them. However=
,
> >> you
> >>> could use a JMS appender to write your events to the MQ queue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ralph
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 1, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Evan J wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Ralph,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the request and response messages, some header data, with
> >>>>>> additional information, are placed in an MDC, packaged in an
> Appender
> >>>>>> and sent to an MQ queue which, ultimately, makes a call to the
> >>>>>> service. It's a centralized logging model for all the applications
> in
> >>>>>> a cluster. Frankly, I don't like the design nor the setup, but I
> >> don't
> >>> make such decisions (or requirements).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A web service to do what? Logging via SOAP would be extremely slo=
w
> >>>>>>> if every log event is a single request. Can you elaborate on what
> >>>>>>> you really want to do?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ralph
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Evan J wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for verifying this. I thought I might be missing an
> obvious,
> >>>>>>>> and this has already been implemented by at least someone.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Remko Popma
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Evan, no I'm not aware of any appender that logs to a web
> service.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Evan J
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I searched around, but I could not find an off-the-shelf
> Appender
> >>>>>>>>>> that sends logs to a web service. Is there any?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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