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Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:36:30 +0200
From: Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goeschl@it20one.at>
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Subject: Re: Some Feedback from using Chainsaw V2 ...
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Hi Scott,

is there any way to contribute to the tutorial? ChainsawV2 is very 
powerful but initially I felt lost when switching from the old Chainsaw.

Just had a quick look - I have no idea how you generate the 
documentation though ....

+) would it make sense to write a seperate tutorial in any document 
format (apart from MS Word)
+) there is a WIKI would could be a starting point
+) since a tutorial will contain a few images maybe OpenOffice would be 
okayish

My other comments you find below ...

Thanks in advance

Siegfried Goeschl

Scott Deboy wrote:

>Thanks for the feedback -
>
>Chainsaw supports most of what you've suggested.  Here are the details:
>
>- You should be able to open Chainsaw from the command line and specify the configuration file  by adding -Dlog4j.configuration=chainsaw.xml to the command (log4j.xml has to be in the classpath).  Example command line (in this example, chainsaw.xml is in \downloads\log4j):
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Gotcha 

>java -Dlog4j.configuration=chainsaw.xml -classpath c:\downloads\log4j;c:\downloads\log4j\jakarta-oro-2.0.8.jar;c:\downloads\log4j\log4j-chainsaw-1.3alpha-7.jar;c:\downloads\log4j\log4j-oro.jar;c:\downloads\log4j\log4j-xml.jar;c:\downloads\log4j\log4j-optional.jar;c:\downloads\log4j\log4j-1.3alpha-7.jar  org.apache.log4j.chainsaw.LogUI
>
>- If you are using a receiver like LogFilePatternReceiver (log file not stored using XMLLayout) to view a log file, you can 'reload' the log file by clearing events and restarting the receiver:
>  - clear the events from the tab (ctrl-backspace or the trash can icon)
>  - open the receiver panel (view-show receivers menu)
>  - select the receiver that's loading events from the log file
>  - select the third icon from the left in the receiver toolbar (tooltip is 'restarts the selected Receiver')  
>
>- If you're viewing a log file stored using XMLLayout, you can still clear the current tab and then choose file-open and open the file
>
>  
>
I'm not sure but Chainsaw always starts from the USER_HOME and running 
file open is in our case a long way to refresh the file. There are many 
ways to skin the cat

+) reload button
+) keeping track of the origin directory
+) recent logfile list

>- You can close a tab by right-clicking on a tab and selecting 'hide'  (you can also undock a tab by double-clicking on the tab-to re-dock 'close' the tab)
>
>  
>
Ooops, is hiding the same as closing?! Sorry for sounding dumb ... .

>- To hide the Welcome tab, press F1, or select the 'view-Welcome tab' menu
>
>  
>
I'm not good in reading welcome screens - I'm sure it was mentioned 
thers somewhere ...

>- I agree with the pre-defined filters suggestion, and I'll make the change
>
>These are all good questions and should be added to the tutorial.
>
>
>Scott
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Siegfried Goeschl [mailto:siegfried.goeschl@it20one.at]
>Sent: Fri 10/7/2005 12:10 PM
>To: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
>Subject: Some Feedback from using Chainsaw V2 ...
> 
>Hi folks,
>
>I started to use Chainsaw V2 in production and would like to provide 
>some feedback ... very politely of course and hoping I didn't miss 
>something VERY obvious  .... :-)
>
>+) it would be helpful to use command line parameters, i.e. to open 
>chainsaw with XML logfile defined on the command line
>+) I think it would be also useful to have a reload button when looking 
>at a XML logfile when not using Chainsaw Appender
>+) how can I close a tab?!
>+) is there a way to get rid of "Welcome" and "chainsaw-log" - our 
>sysadmins are slightly confused ....
>+) Chainsaw provides a few predefined filter, e.g "LEVEL == INFO" - I 
>think "LEVEL > INFO" would be more intuitive for a user
>
>I hope this was helpful and not offending .... ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Siegfried Goeschl
>
>
>
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