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[126.236.228.69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 191sm31251764pfx.68.2016.08.26.16.32.24 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Remko Popma Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D928394A-136C-4B4E-ABE5-34E52911DFD1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: changes.xml Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 08:30:01 +0900 References: <4B4857A0-47EC-47BD-B65D-F5EE33F0E579@dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: To: Log4J Developers List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13G34) archived-at: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 23:32:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D928394A-136C-4B4E-ABE5-34E52911DFD1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=shift_jis Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FWIW, I only use "due-to" to signify I (being "dev") have had significant he= lp from someone else. This may be a patch/ pull request, or an analysis /des= ign suggestion or something else. I thought the intention of the due-to was t= o explicitly give credit to everyone who helped the dev. I use it in the hop= e it encourages people to keep contributing.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 2016/08/27, at 8:04, Matt Sicker wrote: >=20 > We don't gpg-sign commits, so it wouldn't really matter. It's more useful i= n larger projects where you have a hierarchy of project leaders involved. >=20 >> On 26 August 2016 at 18:02, Gary Gregory wrote: >> Are you suggesting we augment the changes.xml model to reflect the 3rd at= tr? >>=20 >> G >>=20 >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> Git has 3 distinctions though: author, committer, and signed off by (whi= ch is optional). >>>=20 >>>> On 26 August 2016 at 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote= : >>>> Maybe we can use the dev attr for the person who commits and the due-to= attr as the actual author; kind of like git's distinction. >>>>=20 >>>> ? >>>>=20 >>>> Gary >>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:= >>>>> What about when you collaborate with a contributor? For example, a hal= f-finished patch. >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 17:47, Gary Gregory wro= te: >>>>>> Copy-paste. Would you rather it does not show up with a due-to? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Gary >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>>>>> Gary, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I am noticing that you have marked several items in changes.xml as =81= gdue-to=81h yourself? Why are you doing that? Traditionally, we have omitte= d that when a committer does the work as it shows up as you making the commi= t in the report. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= - >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --=20 >>>>>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org=20 >>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>>>> Spring Batch in Action >>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com=20 >>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Matt Sicker >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org=20 >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>> Spring Batch in Action >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com=20 >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Matt Sicker >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org=20 >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >> Spring Batch in Action >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com=20 >> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Sicker --Apple-Mail-D928394A-136C-4B4E-ABE5-34E52911DFD1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FWIW, I only use "due-to" to signify I= (being "dev") have had significant help from someone else. This may be a pa= tch/ pull request, or an analysis /design suggestion or something else. I th= ought the intention of the due-to was to explicitly give credit to everyone w= ho helped the dev. I use it in the hope it encourages people to keep contrib= uting. 



Sent from my iPhone
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On 2016/08/27, at 8:04, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:

We don't gpg-sign commits, so it wouldn't re= ally matter. It's more useful in larger projects where you have a hierarchy o= f project leaders involved.

On 26 August 2016 at 18:02, Gary Gregory <= ;garydgregory@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Are you suggesting we augment the changes.xml model to reflect the 3rd a= ttr?

G

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:02 PM,= Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
Git has 3 distinctions though: author, committer, a= nd signed off by (which is optional).
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On 26 August 2016 at 18:00, Gary Gregory <= span dir=3D"ltr"><garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we can use the dev attr for the person who com= mits and the due-to attr as the actual author; kind of like git's distinctio= n.

?

Gary

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Matt Sicker <boards@= gmail.com> wrote:
What about when you collaborate with a contributor? For example, a half= -finished patch.

On 26 August 2016 at 17:47, Gary Gregory <= ;garydgregory@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Copy-paste. Would you rather it does not show up with a due-to?

=
Gary

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Ralph Goers <ra= lph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Gary,

I am noticing that you have marked several items in changes.xml as =E2=80=9C= due-to=E2=80=9D yourself?  Why are you doing that? Traditionally, we ha= ve omitted that when a committer does the work as it shows up as you making t= he commit in the report.

Ralph

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