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From Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Log4J 1.x and JDK 9
Date Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:30:03 GMT
That sounds like a great idea.

On 16 July 2016 at 11:16, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 2016 12:17 AM, "Remko Popma" <remko.popma@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Shall we start contacting Apache project that still use Log4j 1 with
> this new information and offer them our assistance in migrating to Log4j 2
> in order to get ready for Java 9?
>
> I like it!
>
> Gary
>
> >
> > Remko
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 2016/07/15, at 2:36, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Where was the GitHub fork when it was EOL'd? Or when development
> effectively stopped 4 years ago?
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe the hack provided in this thread will be enough for most folks.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 14 July 2016 at 12:12, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> And get ready for a GitHub fork...
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree. We announced that Log4j 1.2 is end of life. We have a
> replacement that is better than Log4j 1.2 in pretty much every way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In my opinion we should
> >>>>> a) make sure Log4j 2 is ready for Java 9
> >>>>> b) start announcing that Log4j 1.2 will not work with Java 9 so
> people can start planning their migration
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Ralph Goers <
> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That was exactly what my “mixed emotions” were about.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, I think we are going to have a fair amount of work to
really
> support Java 9.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ralph
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any Log4j 1 release is likely to open the floodgates of
requests
> to fix any outstanding "simple" (or complex) bugs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Keep in mind that Java 9 is not official yet, so we could
be
> opening ourselves to a series of Java 9 EA compatible releases as Java 9
> with and without Jigsaw (these are still separate builds IIRC) gets
> developed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tracking Java 9 EAs with Log4j 2 is likely to be enough
work as it
> is... if we do want to do that now...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gary
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Remko Popma <
> remko.popma@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Strategically I don't see why doing another 1.2 release
would be
> a good idea.
> >>>>>>>> If people can upgrade to Java 9 with all the regression
testing
> that implies, then I see no reason they would not also upgrade to Log4j 2...
> >>>>>>>> Naturally Log4j 2 needs to be in good shape for Java
9 and we
> would support users who did customizations to Log4j 1.2.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Ralph Goers <
> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That would rule out building on a Mac.  I’d have
to try it from
> a Linux VM.  I think Gary might have built Log4j 1 in the past.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ralph
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Paul Benedict <
> pbenedict@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt, I guess you need JDK 1.4.2 on your machine
to have
> artifact "sun.jdk:tools:jar:1.4.2".
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Matt Sicker
<boards@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How do you even build log4j 1.2? I get this
error when I build
> from trunk:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2:run (javadoc.resources) on
> project log4j: Execution javadoc.resources of goal
> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2:run failed: Plugin
> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2 or one of its dependencies
> could not be resolved: Could not find artifact sun.jdk:tools:jar:1.4.2 at
> specified path
> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.8.0_66.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/../Classes/classes.jar
> -> [Help 1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 14 July 2016 at 10:47, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would we want to do that? We need
to make sure that Log4j
> 2 works well with Java 9, but otherwise I think this is an excellent
> opportunity for users to upgrade to Log4j 2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Remko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Paul
Benedict <
> pbenedict@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to this poster, it appears
1.x is not compatible
> with JDK 9:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2016-July/008654.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I told them I would notify our development
community. So
> here's the notification. :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Given how widely used 1.x is still,
what do you guys think
> of one more 1.x release? Usually I would never entertain the suggestion,
> but this may be the one time the justification makes sense. For those who
> still use 1.x and have no time to upgrade to 2.x, I can't think of a better
> way to support the user community than fix this issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: Inside the post is a link to
the supposed patch.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> >>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action
> >>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> >>>> Spring Batch in Action
> >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
> >> Spring Batch in Action
> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>
>


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Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>

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