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From Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: log4j2 evangelism
Date Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:55:56 GMT
Oh, another thing that would help is doing presentations on log4j. Myself
and a few others run a virtual java user group (and an in-person one) in
Illinois that accepts presenters from around the world for instance. Then
there's the London VirtualJUG as well which is super popular. Plus any
local JUGs.

On 13 June 2016 at 09:54, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've noticed a big problem is that people don't realize you can use
> log4j-api the same way you would normally use slf4j-api. Plus it doesn't
> help that tons of Apache projects are using SLF4J which makes it a sort of
> tacit endorsement of it over log4j-api.
> Some attention on sites like Reddit or StackOverflow might help.
> On 13 June 2016 at 09:52, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms of
>> feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite
>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or
>> even how many Apache projects?
>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to increase
>> our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and
>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other
>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even
>> worse.
>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no explicit
>> mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site
>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is
>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out
>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention
>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a
>> notification on every page.
>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be
>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or
>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2.
>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2?
>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the
>> conversion by name? Or some other way?
>> Thoughts?
>> Remko
> --
> Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>

Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>

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