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From Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
Subject Re: Log4j for Scala
Date Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:30:31 GMT
Yes, but I am not really sure about how to do a release.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I thought we/you were going to cut an alpha release?
>
> Gary
> On Jan 12, 2016 8:24 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.staldal@magine.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So where are we on this?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Mikael Ståldal <
>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good then.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.staldal@magine.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can it still depend on log4-api version 2.5 then?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with
>>>>> Log4j’s versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to
let
>>>>> people know it isn’t GA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules.
>>>>> We just keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1
>>>>> sounds fine to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible
>>>>>> (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow
to be able
>>>>>> to get some feedback before we commit to a final API.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names
as
>>>>>> in the final, but include something in the version which marks it
as
>>>>>> preview. Such as "2.5-beta1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module,
>>>>>>> but I have never tried that. Or the process could be done manually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part
of
>>>>>>> the next release, while somehow marking it as experimental so
that we can
>>>>>>> still make changes to the API depending on user feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only
the
>>>>>>> scala module?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remko
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release,
which I
>>>>>>> am not certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants
to release it
>>>>>>> separately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev
>>>>>>> branch, so it should be okay to build this module by default.
No need for
>>>>>>> setting up a separate profile AFAIC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify
the
>>>>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom
as I recall. I
>>>>>>> think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then
use the maven
>>>>>>> helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental"
profile to
>>>>>>>> the parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They
wouldn’t have
>>>>>>>> to build by default.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental,
>>>>>>>> feedback requested".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead
of
>>>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.
 In fact,
>>>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do
the same thing
>>>>>>>> with git.  If you have an account at github you could put
the project
>>>>>>>> there. But we really can’t publish anything officially
from there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules,
and let
>>>>>>>> them depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you
feeling up
>>>>>>>>> to trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1
or the
>>>>>>>>> whole suite?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when
2.5 is out?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <
>>>>>>>>>>> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release
the scala beta as a
>>>>>>>>>>> single separate module. Then integrate it once
you are sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start
the release today if
>>>>>>>>>>> we are ready.  I just want to review the delete
stuff Remko just added.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory
<
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and
the do a 2.6-beta _at the
>>>>>>>>>>> same time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal"
<
>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It
would be good to be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to release some beta or preview version of this
and get some feedback from
>>>>>>>>>>> Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM,
Ralph Goers <
>>>>>>>>>>> ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have
to match the directory
>>>>>>>>>>> name. However, we were advised that they should
or else some of the Maven
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins might have problems. I think the site
plugin was one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56
PM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the
artifact name via <finalName> or
>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52,
Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven
projects i know. I think certain
>>>>>>>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21
PM, "Matt Sicker" <boards@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name
doesn't have to match the module name I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015
at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at
branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to
add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct
28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so
the Maven module folder name will be like
>>>>>>>>>>> that too, right?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed,
Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes,
Scala does not maintain binary compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>> between major versions. There is a convention
for encoding this into Maven
>>>>>>>>>>> artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10",
"log4j-scala_2.11" etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon,
Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker <
>>>>>>>>>>> boards@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version.
Would is make sense to tag on
>>>>>>>>>>> a version to the module to account for this,
like log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
Gary
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.staldal@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am thinking of making a log4j module,
>>>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala", with a Scala wrapper for Log4j
2, inspired from
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Would that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mikael
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Senior
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Senior software
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Senior software developer
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
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