Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46390110A3 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83569 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2014 01:45:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 83518 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2014 01:45:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 83508 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jun 2014 01:45:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 01:45:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 209.85.160.46 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.46] (HELO mail-pb0-f46.google.com) (209.85.160.46) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 01:45:24 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id rq2so3175119pbb.19 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=F3/COXMVJUhsakgBquTugLcB+1aRSQ29Fnb6zBQL6TM=; b=Z99WgWXEugH2mDEMOi+U19Y8sBUvPw5gZpdUz9Z5IwTZJ9XAr4I9RW1K165GHe3uMh hzXh8zxH96BsBMXV1lHoLKrOtEhfLfAUW7a3bWLzkKaxxPVD+BmqZYunPwJ6tLCrw3z4 wrmmUIcguoBWqV0HZOrPqsGSUEH4mkfr7n+oDoAPh4iFVyn2jtU+6TGxLVnqTXKlGMF7 5N6Rsakkmy9Qyp+jO5MJ2/wr+y/zsbC7yO4o/dhTwoDiTqHNsFBdTOfNacQ1Hkbl2PY5 jXfeD6y3B1cGOXrBPRXiPG9dXSLoHh17xC8u9ePWkcpZxjlcFnw3fwaB0N/Himd88a1U 8lAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm0pv+n8Q0aVldNpMZLONVNcNwSm3IyLbC8SPE58Q3/x80bNWQOeaU3e4/IdEQi7/K7inMK X-Received: by 10.68.106.194 with SMTP id gw2mr6714597pbb.85.1402105499748; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.164.1.144] (219.sub-70-209-76.myvzw.com. [70.209.76.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ja8sm41744413pbd.3.2014.06.06.18.44.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [VOTE Results] Log4j 2 logo References: <0B1D4241-3A37-464A-960F-35271B095228@gmail.com> <4A4330E6-7793-4D07-B2E8-86653784E7E4@dslextreme.com> <99CA5F61-D339-4386-BFB3-894ADDAAF79A@gmail.com> From: Ralph Goers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9373F00D-09CA-47CB-B8B5-FBB19CDDBBCB X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 18:44:56 -0700 To: Log4J Developers List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-9373F00D-09CA-47CB-B8B5-FBB19CDDBBCB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We should start a new vote thread if that is how we want to go. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Bruce Brouwer wrote:= >=20 > Sorry, I meant to say without D as an option. I don't mind a quick vote be= tween A and D. Here's my vote: >=20 > A >=20 >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Remko Popma wrote= : >> Personally I don't mind either A or D.=20 >> If the tool says D, I'm fine with D. If there's doubt, then let's have an= other quick vote between these two.=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On 2014/06/07, at 10:06, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>=20 >>> Well, I am happy to reconsider since D is my last place vote ;-) I just d= on't get the whole fish/Jesus thing... >>>=20 >>> Gary >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Below are the results from STV as calculated by http://paul-lockett.co.= uk/stv.html. This indicates that D is the winning logo. However, after loo= king at the votes it isn=E2=80=99t clear to me why A isn=E2=80=99t the winne= r as it had more first and second place votes. also, if you go through the v= otes and rank A and D based on which is ranked highest in each vote you woul= d get A - 4, D - 3. >>>>=20 >>>> Thoughts? >>>>=20 >>>> Ralph >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> SINGLE TRANSFERABLE VOTE COUNTER >>>>=20 >>>> Candidates=3D9 Seats=3D1 Votes=3D7 Quota=3D3.5 >>>> Raw votes >>>> vote 1: (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C)=20 >>>> vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (I) (E) (F) (G)=20 >>>> vote 3: (H) (E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D)=20 >>>> vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (H) (F) (A) (B) (E)=20 >>>> vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (D) (C)=20 >>>> vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H) (G) (D) (I) (E) (F)=20 >>>> vote 7: (A) (B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I)=20 >>>> Round 1 votes >>>> vote 1: (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (I) (E) (F) (G) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 3: (H) (E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (H) (F) (A) (B) (E) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (D) (C) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H) (G) (D) (I) (E) (F) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 7: (A) (B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I) vote value =3D 1 >>>> A =3D 2 >>>> B =3D 0 >>>> C =3D 0 >>>> D =3D 2 >>>> E =3D 0 >>>> F =3D 0 >>>> G =3D 1 >>>> H =3D 2 >>>> I =3D 0 >>>>=20 >>>> Fewest votes won by a candidate =3D 1. >>>> Number of candidates with the fewest votes =3D 1. >>>> G is eliminated. >>>> Round 2 votes >>>> vote 1: (D) (A) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 2: (D) (A) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 3: (H) (A) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 4: (D) (H) (A) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 5: (H) (A) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 6: (A) (H) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 7: (A) (D) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> A =3D 2 >>>> B =3D 0 >>>> C =3D 0 >>>> D =3D 3 >>>> E =3D 0 >>>> F =3D 0 >>>> G =3D 0 >>>> H =3D 2 >>>> I =3D 0 >>>>=20 >>>> Fewest votes won by a candidate =3D 2. >>>> Number of candidates with the fewest votes =3D 2. >>>> The tiebreaker loser is A. >>>> A is eliminated. >>>> Round 3 votes >>>> vote 1: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 2: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 3: (H) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 4: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 5: (H) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 6: (H) (D) vote value =3D 1 >>>> vote 7: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1 >>>> A =3D 0 >>>> B =3D 0 >>>> C =3D 0 >>>> D =3D 4 >>>> E =3D 0 >>>> F =3D 0 >>>> G =3D 0 >>>> H =3D 3 >>>> I =3D 0 >>>>=20 >>>> Most votes currently held by a candidate =3D 4. >>>> Number of candidates with the greatest number of votes =3D 1. >>>> D has exceeded the quota and is elected. If there are seats remaining t= o be filled, the surplus will now be reallocated. >>>> The election is complete and the elected candidates are (D). >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Christian Grobmeier = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> My vote: ABDHCEFGI >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks! >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:08, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> It is time to select a logo. The list of candidates can be found at h= ttps://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations as those having at least= two supporters and are arbitrarily identified as A through I. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> This vote will use STV to calculate the results. This means your vot= e should consist of from 1 to 9 letters identifying the logos in order of pr= eference from first to last. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The key idea to keep in mind is that the ordering of your votes is cr= ucial. Those who you *really* want to be elected should be at the beginning/= start of the list. For example: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Aragorn, Frodo, Bilbo, Sam, Sauron, Gandalf, Treebeard, Gollum, Gimli= >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> means that you really want Aragorn to be elected (he=E2=80=99s your p= rimary preferred person), followed by Frodo (you want Frodo on the board mor= e than you want Bilbo, Sam and Sauron, but not as much as you want Aragorn),= followed by Bilbo, etc=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> In this vote only the top logo will be selected but STV will identify= the winner using all the votes. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> This vote will remain open for 72 hours. In accordance with the rules= listed in LOG4J2-316 votes of all Logging committers are binding. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --- >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>>> @grobmeier >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org=20 >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>> Spring Batch in Action >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com=20 >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > =20 > Bruce Brouwer > about.me/bruce.brouwer >=20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-9373F00D-09CA-47CB-B8B5-FBB19CDDBBCB Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We should start a new vote thread if t= hat is how we want to go.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 6,= 2014, at 6:43 PM, Bruce Brouwer <bruce.brouwer@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I meant to say without D= as an option. I don't mind a quick vote between A and D. Here's my vote:
A


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Remko Popma <remko.popma@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Personally I don't mind either A or D. 
If the tool says D, I'm fine with D. If there's doubt, then let's have ano= ther quick vote between these two. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2014/06/07, at 10:06, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail= .com> wrote:

Well, I am happy to reconsider since D is my last place vote ;-) I just= don't get the whole fish/Jesus thing...

Gary


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at= 4:03 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wr= ote:

<= /div>
Below are the results from STV as calculated by http://paul-lockett.co.u= k/stv.html.  This indicates that D is the winning logo.  Howev= er, after looking at the votes it isn=E2=80=99t clear to me why A isn=E2=80=99= t the winner as it had more first and second place votes.  also, if you= go through the votes and rank A and D based on which is ranked highest in e= ach vote you would get A - 4,  D - 3.

Thoughts?

Ralph

<= /div>

SINGLE TRANSFER= ABLE VOTE COUNTER

Candidates=3D9 Seats=3D1 Votes=3D7 Quota=3D3.5
Raw votes
vote 1= : (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C) 
vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (= I) (E) (F) (G) 
vote 3: (H) (E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D) vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (H) (F) (A) (B) (E) 
vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (D) (C) 
vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H)= (G) (D) (I) (E) (F) 
vote 7: (A) (B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I)&nb= sp;
Round 1 votes
vote 1: (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C) vote value =3D 1
vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (I) (E) (F) (G) vote value =3D 1
vote 3: (H) (= E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (= H) (F) (A) (B) (E) vote value =3D 1
vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (= D) (C) vote value =3D 1
vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H) (G) (D) (I) (E) (F) vote value =3D 1
vote 7: (A) (= B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I) vote value =3D 1
A =3D 2
B =3D 0<= br>C =3D 0
D =3D 2
E =3D 0
F =3D 0
G =3D 1
H =3D 2
I =3D 0=

Fewest votes won by a candidate =3D 1.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes =3D 1.
G is eliminated.
Round 2 votes
vote 1: (= D) (A) (H) vote value =3D 1
vote 2: (D) (A) (H) vote value =3D 1
vote 3= : (H) (A) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 4: (D) (H) (A) vote value =3D 1
vote 5: (H) (A) (D) vote value =3D 1=
vote 6: (A) (H) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 7: (A) (D) (H) vote value =3D= 1
A =3D 2
B =3D 0
C =3D 0
D =3D 3
E =3D 0
F =3D 0G =3D 0
H =3D 2
I =3D 0

Fewest votes won by a candidate =3D 2.
Number o= f candidates with the fewest votes =3D 2.
The tiebreaker loser is A.
A= is eliminated.
Round 3 v= otes
vote 1: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1
vote 2: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1
vote= 3: (H) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 4: (D) (H) vote value =3D 1
vote 5: (= H) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 6: (H) (D) vote value =3D 1
vote 7: (D) (= H) vote value =3D 1
A =3D 0
B =3D 0
C =3D 0
D =3D 4
E =3D 0
F =3D 0
G =3D= 0
H =3D 3
I =3D 0

Most votes currently held by a candidate =3D= 4.
Number of candidates with the greatest number of votes =3D 1.
D ha= s exceeded the quota and is elected. If there are seats remaining to be fill= ed, the surplus will now be reallocated.
The election is complete and the elected candidates are (D).


On= Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:

My vote: ABDHCEFGI

Thanks!

On 3 J= un 2014, at 22:08, Ralph Goers wrote:

It is= time to select a logo. The list of candidates can be found at https:= //wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations as those having at least t= wo supporters and are arbitrarily identified as A through I.

This vote will use STV to calculate the results.  This means your v= ote should consist of from 1 to 9 letters identifying the logos in order of p= reference from first to last.

The key idea to keep in mind is that th= e ordering of your votes is crucial. Those who you *really* want to be elect= ed should be at the beginning/start of the list. For example:

Aragorn, Frodo, Bilbo, Sam, Sauron, Gandalf, Treebeard, Gollum, Gimli
means that you really want Aragorn to be elected (he=E2=80=99s your pri= mary preferred person), followed by Frodo (you want Frodo on the board more t= han you want Bilbo, Sam and Sauron, but not as much as you want Aragorn), fo= llowed by Bilbo, etc=E2=80=A6

In this vote only the top logo will be selected but STV will identify th= e winner using all the votes.

This vote will remain open for 72 hours= . In accordance with the rules listed in LOG4J2-316 votes of all Logging com= mitters are binding.


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