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From Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon CFP
Date Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:49:35 GMT
On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 31 Jan 2014, at 14:49, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
>  Yeah that would work. Nashville huh? My co-worker is from there too, neat.
>>
>> In regard to the async and such, I think that'd be a great idea. One of
>> the selling points of log4j over logback is performance, right?
>>
>
> I always add the reconfiguration thing. Logback migth lose log events when
> re-configured hot, log4j doesn't.
>
> Also its more flexible (imho) due to its plugin mechanism


LOG4J2-506 is a good example of how flexible the plugin system is: a user
wants to do binary logging, and it turns out that with just a little bit of
custom code they can achieve what they need...


>  Matt Sicker
>
>  On Jan 31, 2014, at 0:52, Nick Williams <nicholas@nicholaswilliams.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>  On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
>  On 30 January 2014 18:01, Nick Williams <nicholas@nicholaswilliams.net>
> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Do you want to share a hotel room? I know it would certainly help my
> finances to split one, and depending on whether you get employer support,
> it should probably help yours as well. I'm planning on being there all five
> days (staying in the hotel Sunday night through Thursday night)--you?
>
> Sharing a hotel room sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure on which days
> I'll be there, but it would most likely be almost if not the same ones.
>
>
> Okay. I'm registering and booking my travel tomorrow (Friday, which I
> guess is actually today now). Should I book the hotel, too, and then you
> can just pay me for your part depending on how many nights we split it?
> That arrangement. works fine for me.
>
> By the way, I'm in central time, which is why the website say
> America/Chicago. I'm actually in Nashville, though.
>
>
>  I was planning on putting together several CFPs. Originally I was
> thinking about these four:
>
> - An Intro to Log4j 2.0: A New Generation of Apache Logging
> - Log4j 2 in Web Applications: A Deeper Look at Effective Java EE Logging
> - Logging to Relational and NoSQL Databases with Log4j 2
> - Extending Log4j 2: Writing Custom Appenders, Filters, and Layouts
>
> I really like those ideas. You've effectively modularized all the ideas I
> had for CFPs. I'd be interested in doing any of those, but I have the least
> experience with the myriad Java EE technologies out of those four.
>
>
> Why don't you write up a CFP for the first and fourth ones? Be sure to
> include the performance studies mentioned on the website and information
> about the Levels and their extensibility, the logger interfaces, etc. in
> the first one. I'll write up the CFPs for the second and third one. Before
> we submit them, let's trade them with each other for review, proofreading,
> and comments. How about we plan on exchanging them about 6 p.m. CST Friday
> evening and then submitting them by 10 p.m. CST Friday evening. Sound good?
>
> Look forward to working with you on representing Log4j at ApacheCon.
>
> Nick
>
>
>  Before you write up your CFPs, lets coordinate and come to a consensus on
> which of us is doing which CFP. Having two people there covering Log4j
> would be great!
>
> I've only drafted out a couple ideas so far, but they match up with one as
> your first one, and the other a union of the remaining.
>
> Nick
>
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
>  I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a
> talk on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is anyone
> else interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to cover the
> neat new features in log4j, why we're more awesome than SLF4J, how to use
> logging effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject trace logging, using
> informative log messages, effective usage of the API, when to use different
> levels, using markers, complex logging configurations, etc), how to help
> make log4j compatible with other logging APIs not already implemented,
> creating additional components (I.e., appenders, filters, layouts, etc.),
> and many other ideas. Obviously that's too much to cover in one talk, but
> it's a good place to start examining what topics to cover and at what
> levels of expertise.
>
> Matt Sicker
>
>  On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams <nicholas@nicholaswilliams.net>
> wrote:
>
> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right
> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money
>
>

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