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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
Date Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:10:02 GMT
Sorry to say, not so far.

VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't
heard back.

Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe
asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess.
Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>wrote:

> Christian,
>
> Any update from your brand discussions?
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to.  We could probably
>>> use git though.  The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people
>>> upload their images to it.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW, I ran into this:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
>>> grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just
>>>> > created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do
>>>> not
>>>> > see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred
>>>> format but
>>>> > let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG
>>>> files?
>>>>
>>>> The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork
>>>> but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a
>>>> tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape:
>>>> inkscape.org
>>>> I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based
>>>> artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG.
>>>>
>>>> Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while
>>>> Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of
>>>> course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe)
>>>> you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad.
>>>>
>>>> If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know
>>>> many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a
>>>> few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it.
>>>>
>>>> With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking
>>>> difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the
>>>> entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it
>>>> is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work
>>>> with SVG once its created.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know
>>>> what we will do with the logo one day.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Gary
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
>>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in
all
>>>> >> sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on.
>>>> >> At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep
it
>>>> open
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams
>>>> >> <nicholas@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a
>>>> >> > higher-resolution
>>>> >> > format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions
>>>> that it
>>>> >> > should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target
>>>> resolution
>>>> >> > is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed
(like,
>>>> for
>>>> >> > example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for
logos
>>>> >> > attached
>>>> >> > to the JIRA. Perhaps:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > lastname-firstname-logo01.extension
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Where the numbers following the word "logo" represent which
number
>>>> it is
>>>> >> > that person has submitted.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Just my thoughts.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Nick
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I think the "preferred" format should be PNG. If you use Gimp,
then
>>>> >> > also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that
if a
>>>> >> > proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for
us to
>>>> >> > use. We can note that adding a small "TM" is preferred but
not
>>>> >> > required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size
we
>>>> could
>>>> >> > suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling
down
>>>> is
>>>> >> > easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Gary
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hello,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept
a
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given
soon.
>>>> I
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > would like to have that instructions in place, before we send
out
>>>> any
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > mails or start the contest.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list.
I
>>>> will
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here
too.
>>>> Its
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I
am glad
>>>> the
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > idea of a new logo found support :-)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Cheers
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Christian
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>>> garydgregory@gmail.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Log4j 2 logo contest
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this
>>>> occasion,
>>>> >> > Log4j 2
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to
the
>>>> >> > community to
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > create this new logo.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Attach your entries to the Jira http://...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Each person can submit more than one logo.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of
a
>>>> hat] June
>>>> >> > 30,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev
mailing
>>>> >> > lists.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > You must submit your entries under the Apache License version
2.0.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The Log4j team.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ---
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thoughts?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Gary
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> >
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>>>> >> >
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>>
>>
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