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From Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [v2] "combined" jar name?
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:02:27 GMT
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:

> OK. The current combined jar only includes API and core and has no
> required dependencies that are different than core. I am imagining that
> many will prefer to use this single jar instead of having to include both
> the API and core jars.  What is your opinion on that and if positive, what
> would you name it?

Let's see, if we have an api + core jar, then that means you can use Log4J
out of the box with the one jar (as you could with -all), maybe
log4j-standalone? Or just log4j?

Should "log4j-core" be "log4j-impl"?

Why is it slf4j-impl and not log4j-slf4j-impl or log4j-slf4j?

Why is it log4j-jcl and not log4j-jcl-impl?

It seems we should have a naming pattern for bridges to other logging
systems, either the name or name-impl.

We could then have:

   - log4j-impl
   - log4j-jcl-impl
   - log4j-slf4j-impl


   - log4j-api

Then the combos:

   - log4j-all
   - log4j-standalone


> Ralph
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Paul Benedict <pbenedict@apache.org> wrote:
> I may have misunderstood, but I'll give it another shot!
> I don't like combined jars. It's because there's too many dependencies
> associated with them. It makes the POM kind of worthless because any
> extensions are all <optional>true</option> ... so you have to go manually
> add those to your Maven project anyway to get them. I think that kind of
> defeats the purpose of an all-in-one jar.
> My only point was if there is a combined jar that has everything, call it
> "-all" not "-combined"
> Paul
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Tushar Kapila <tgkprog@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I prefer all.jar or ApiAndCore.jar
>> Even if OSes accept special characters there will always be closed
>> systems that do not. Exampple hyphen is okay in a domain name but one of
>> the visa test pit's don't like them
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