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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [ANN] Deleting receivers and components 'companions'
Date Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:56:42 GMT
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, sort of like what happened to zeroconf...
>
> I think Component could go back in to core.

OK.. then lets wait for another couple of hours, maybe other people
want to stand up. Afterwards I will remove the component website, but
leave reiceivers and extras website were it is now.

>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Here's my preference:
>> >
>> > I would expect more receivers will be added in the future, or there may
>> > be
>> > bugs we want to fix..so I would leave receivers and extras as companions
>> > and
>> > move component somewhere (Chainsaw or core).
>>
>> OK, and receivers and extras website will stay as it is now?
>> Only "component" will be removed?
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> > <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gary, thanks for explaining your situation
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > We could leave receivers as their own companion...component is so
>> >> > small
>> >> > it
>> >> > should either go back in to core or into Chainsaw (there are some
>> >> > repositoryselector extensions that are useful, etc)..
>> >>
>> >> another solution is to make some kind of "logging attic" and leave the
>> >> code there, unmaintained.
>> >> Or we do only remove the website as planned and leave the code were it
>> >> is.
>> >>
>> >> So we have now:
>> >>
>> >> 1) move receivers code to log4j-core
>> >> 2) move receivers code to Chainsaw
>> >> 3) move receivers code to logging-attic, from which anybody who wants
>> >> can copy it
>> >> 4) leave code were it is, just delete the reference from the website.
>> >> Users who are in need still now were it is or know how to lookup
>> >>
>> >> For the sake of pragmatism I would prefer #3
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Christian
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Christian,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We, at Seagull Software, a division of Rocket Software, use the
jars
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> our LegaSuite app server [1] and some tools.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Moving the code would be an impediment to updating to the next
>> >> >> release
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the jars.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1]
>> >> >> http://seagull.rocketsoftware.com/products/application-modernization
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > We use the XMLSocketReceiver.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Who actually is "we"?
>> >> >>> Can you copy it over? Or do you need it were it is?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Cheers
>> >> >>> Christian
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Gary
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Scott Deboy
>> >> >>> > <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> The sources for the unreleased receivers and components
>> >> >>> >> companions
>> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >>> >> been copied in to the Chainsaw source tree, based
on the
>> >> >>> >> assumption
>> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>> >> they are only useful to Chainsaw.  Unless there are
any
>> >> >>> >> objections,
>> >> >>> >> I
>> >> >>> >> plan
>> >> >>> >> on deleting the component and receivers companions
from
>> >> >>> >> subversion,
>> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >>> >> corresponding changes to the site made shortly after
to remove
>> >> >>> >> them
>> >> >>> >> from the
>> >> >>> >> website.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> The sources were copied unchanged, so if anyone needs
access to
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> receiver, they are still accessible, they would just
need to be
>> >> >>> >> copied
>> >> >>> >> out
>> >> >>> >> of the Chainsaw source tree.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> When the website changes are made, the 'companion's
link will be
>> >> >>> >> removed
>> >> >>> >> and replaced with the only remaining standalone 'companion':
>> >> >>> >> extras.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Let me know if you have any objections.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Thanks
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Scott
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
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>> >> >>> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> >> >>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> >> >>> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
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>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> Spring Batch in Action: http://bit.ly/bqpbCK
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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