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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [ANN] Deleting receivers and components 'companions'
Date Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:30:44 GMT
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org> wrote:
> This might help you get started (from Commons):
> https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingNexus

Thanks Gary, Actually I have helped editing this file. :-)

But to be honest, I am not even sure if Nexus has been used before for
log4j.  Well... lets see if Curt can comment, as he has done the past
releases.

Cheers
Christian

>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes a release ASAP would be great...
>>
>> I'd love to see a wiki page on how to release as well, with all the steps.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Well, rolling them in to core would be an option.  Curt had a rationale
>>> > for
>>> > companions, from a previous email:
>>> >
>>> > "The motivation to have "companions" as a distinct products was not to
>>> > keep
>>> > the log4j.jar trim, but allow the companions to be available for people
>>> > who
>>> > were stuck with older versions of log4j 1.2 (due to package managers or
>>> > other software bundlers liking to distribution ancient versions of
>>> > log4j
>>> > 1.2)."
>>> >
>>> > I personally don't think support for receivers with older versions of
>>> > log4j
>>> > is a big deal...so I would be ok with moving things in to core.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> In other terms, we should try to get a log4j release out pretty soon
>>> to enable a chainsaw release, right?
>>>
>>> I cannot find a "how to release" page unfortunately. Maybe Curt can
>>> comment if he can do / or can help with this task.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Scott
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gary, thanks for explaining your situation
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> > We could leave receivers as their own companion...component
is so
>>> >>> > small
>>> >>> > it
>>> >>> > should either go back in to core or into Chainsaw (there are
some
>>> >>> > repositoryselector extensions that are useful, etc)..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> another solution is to make some kind of "logging attic" and leave
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> code there, unmaintained.
>>> >>> Or we do only remove the website as planned and leave the code were
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> is.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So we have now:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1) move receivers code to log4j-core
>>> >>> 2) move receivers code to Chainsaw
>>> >>> 3) move receivers code to logging-attic, from which anybody who
wants
>>> >>> can copy it
>>> >>> 4) leave code were it is, just delete the reference from the website.
>>> >>> Users who are in need still now were it is or know how to lookup
>>> >>
>>> >> I like (1), the fewer jars the better for me and the less chance of
>>> >> things
>>> >> breaking in the future.
>>> >>
>>> >> Gayr
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For the sake of pragmatism I would prefer #3
>>> >>>
>>> >>> cheers,
>>> >>> Christian
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Scott
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hi Christian,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> We, at Seagull Software, a division of Rocket Software,
use the
>>> >>> >> jars
>>> >>> >> in
>>> >>> >> our LegaSuite app server [1] and some tools.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Moving the code would be an impediment to updating to the
next
>>> >>> >> release
>>> >>> >> of
>>> >>> >> the jars.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Gary
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> [1]
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> http://seagull.rocketsoftware.com/products/application-modernization
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> >>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gary Gregory
>>> >>> >>> <ggregory@apache.org>
>>> >>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> > We use the XMLSocketReceiver.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Who actually is "we"?
>>> >>> >>> Can you copy it over? Or do you need it were it is?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Cheers
>>> >>> >>> Christian
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Gary
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Scott Deboy
>>> >>> >>> > <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>>> >>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> The sources for the unreleased receivers and
components
>>> >>> >>> >> companions
>>> >>> >>> >> have
>>> >>> >>> >> been copied in to the Chainsaw source tree,
based on the
>>> >>> >>> >> assumption
>>> >>> >>> >> that
>>> >>> >>> >> they are only useful to Chainsaw.  Unless
there are any
>>> >>> >>> >> objections, I
>>> >>> >>> >> plan
>>> >>> >>> >> on deleting the component and receivers companions
from
>>> >>> >>> >> subversion,
>>> >>> >>> >> with
>>> >>> >>> >> corresponding changes to the site made shortly
after to remove
>>> >>> >>> >> them
>>> >>> >>> >> from the
>>> >>> >>> >> website.
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> The sources were copied unchanged, so if anyone
needs access
>>> >>> >>> >> to a
>>> >>> >>> >> receiver, they are still accessible, they
would just need to
>>> >>> >>> >> be
>>> >>> >>> >> copied
>>> >>> >>> >> out
>>> >>> >>> >> of the Chainsaw source tree.
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> When the website changes are made, the 'companion's
link will
>>> >>> >>> >> be
>>> >>> >>> >> removed
>>> >>> >>> >> and replaced with the only remaining standalone
'companion':
>>> >>> >>> >> extras.
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> Let me know if you have any objections.
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> Thanks
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> Scott
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > --
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