Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54113 invoked from network); 30 May 2010 15:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 30 May 2010 15:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 62359 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2010 15:02:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 62296 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2010 15:02:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 62288 invoked by uid 99); 30 May 2010 15:02:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 30 May 2010 15:02:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of nospam0002@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.222 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.222] (HELO mail-ew0-f222.google.com) (209.85.219.222) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 30 May 2010 15:01:53 +0000 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so842015ewy.29 for ; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wVzRfzG5hoICNT3CfFgX//lNgBq/WUy20PQLLK3/7Ls=; b=mt3WctKBS946IPpj7XQvubsX/H0yh1kcvKxeqcWftzY2KR+EhkqO5ZYlP4wj+7/OV4 BDyvQQ9ay51ilQb8RDPh/iaPzCtUMD4kD8C+RcG6EMb5xfiHc9WvvQi09olzX1NiZKEA ShLGfacshyzjqb3mU2n4WExo9Ez2oS7drfvFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=imDPM9MHlONKodAnn6SCeTy+13f7OlxL2O0/VkPFMv0nHh8nlS+nHCOQutQmcCfVn0 JDd9bmAsV3mWVfyQTT/awzFZyTuENKGs2pwDnI5s3BYdVujl83JvESfgFuSBy1HnVwIL 0z/cF574W98FR+1crDmm9iCwWzoguhns0iXB4= Received: by 10.213.28.138 with SMTP id m10mr1567040ebc.17.1275231692781; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ravn.local (x1-6-00-1f-33-af-db-10.k286.webspeed.dk [80.167.223.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm2406204ewy.9.2010.05.30.08.01.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 May 2010 08:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C027DC8.4000508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:01:28 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Thorbj=F8rn_Ravn_Andersen?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; da; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Future development of Log4J? References: <4B2218A4.1080900@qos.ch> <4B222E46.4030602@qos.ch> <1C4FF2CB-F8A5-4113-8FB3-9E1A44A6F6DD@dslextreme.com> <4B22C6B6.5000205@qos.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Den 12/12/09 02.02, Christian Grobmeier skrev: > SLF4J - sorry I don't know much about it. But from its website, its > again a QOS project and it seems to be a wrapper around various > logging APIs. Besides that I never had a benefit from encapsulating a > logging framework (I never switched from JDK logging to Log4J or vice > versa while developing a project) I wonder why you are referring to > this. Maybe I didn't get the point, but why can't we just refactor > Log4J and clean it up and include this locking issue and Java5 > features you mentioned? > Just commenting on an old thread: Each logging framework has advantages and disadvantages, and by using slf4j you can postpone the decision which one to use to deployment time. This is a good thing if you write code which is reused over several projects, or if you have heterogeneous platforms for deployments. It gives you an extra degree of flexibility which is nice to have. -- Thorbj�rn Ravn Andersen "...plus... Tubular Bells!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org