Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89926 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 00:09:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2010 00:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 60976 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 00:09:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 60940 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 00:09:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 60932 invoked by uid 99); 8 Apr 2010 00:09:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:09:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of scott.deboy@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.175] (HELO mail-gy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.160.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:09:49 +0000 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1so757082gya.34 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:09:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oz6vS/KnIcgYCmkxb9lFlotBB16U4FkWlBNusuO4MPQ=; b=sN0QaSHbwyeGh1PzELt0SDZbQ2eGyf4SG2mtwvTS/pKlW5E+9yhcp/ZZHgcX/fjIBE gOOSGqaUW8+xrNHFG5L7P/QO7Zdq/cYXEqoIf2KF8dmIKpql+qukypXIK2KNBtUgrVfq /AUynCpNic27yFgrsF5fGjnJFdTizR653PiwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fpa7ovu/u9FtiswnP03iuk2MwpMwb4+7Ue8VEf7IYljwrJb9iYgr5X85P0TeVrXeGV KAe2q9Akh48CFZz5mU4DjPTYt3s87uyYSzdEZo+3YUb8OT5v1pG9o5kOXeCwxiWybZj1 6SRmODhYa/+np+J9MCq3tHznxjmkOwSIfMppE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.13.139 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:09:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28172150.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <5230A295-DDDD-42D1-934A-3577B5997D77@gmail.com> <28172026.post@talk.nabble.com> <28172150.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:09:28 -0700 Received: by 10.150.160.18 with SMTP id i18mr6035108ybe.100.1270685368376; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Modular Build From: Scott Deboy To: Log4J Developers List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7615a00dea70483ae7eb0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --000e0cd7615a00dea70483ae7eb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Neither of these tools are hosted in a separate repository that I'm aware of. However, they are always available from svn, or via previous releases. If someone wanted to, they could host them in a different repository, I'm not sure we need to worry about it. It could be useful to tag the source tree just before they were removed. Scott On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Antony Stubbs wrote: > > If I'm understanding you correctly, that either the LF5 and Chainsaw > projects > have been superseded and/or the current version's source is hosted in a > separate repository, then IMO most definitely they should be deleted from > this repo. > > > Scott Deboy wrote: > > > > I'd think we could just remove LF5 and Chainsaw V1 from the log4j source > > tree. They haven't been updated in years, and folks can use a prior > > release > > of log4j if they want to get to them. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Antony Stubbs > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi guys, following on from my comment, I've uploaded a proposed > >> modularisation here: > >> > >> > http://github.com/astubbs/log4j/commit/7c5b4689d5cc509d207e3270fc6f012ea8064c6d > >> > >> > http://github.com/astubbs/log4j/commit/ce3ce992d509e8c341914437bbc11442711fc5bf > >> > >> As well as the module split, I would also do a more complete maven > >> migration > >> (except for possibly the NT build stuff). > >> > >> My immediate drive for this (apart from the other obvious benefits) is > >> the > >> file size of the log4j jar (~800k). Removing LF5 alone removes 490k > >> (uncompressed). > >> > >> I know this drives up the complexity, but I think it is worth if to get > >> the > >> at least the GUI stuff out. > >> > >> Cheers. > >> > >> > >> Antony Stubbs wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi guys, what's the established opinion from log4j about breaking > >> > log4j up into modules ie net, nt appender, chainsaw etc? > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Antony Stubbs > >> > Technical Architect - Prototyping > >> > Telecom Retail > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- > >> > ___________________________ > >> > http://stubbisms.wordpress.com > >> > > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> ___________________________ > >> > >> http://stubbisms.wordpress.com http://stubbisms.wordpress.com > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://old.nabble.com/Modular-Build-tp28170343p28172026.html > >> Sent from the Log4j - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > > ----- > ___________________________ > > http://stubbisms.wordpress.com http://stubbisms.wordpress.com > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/Modular-Build-tp28170343p28172150.html > Sent from the Log4j - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org > > --000e0cd7615a00dea70483ae7eb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neither of these tools are hosted in a separate repository that I'm awa= re of.=A0 However, they are always available from svn, or via previous rele= ases.=A0 If someone wanted to, they could host them in a different reposito= ry, I'm not sure we need to worry about it.=A0

It could be useful to tag the source tree just before they were removed= .

Scott

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:5= 3 PM, Antony Stubbs <antony.stubbs@gmail.com> wrote:

If I'm understanding you correctly, that either the LF5 and Chainsaw pr= ojects
have been superseded and/or the current version's source is hosted in a=
separate repository, then IMO most definitely they should be deleted from this repo.


Scott Deboy wrote:
>
> I'd think we could just remove LF5 and Chainsaw V1 from the log4j = source
> tree. =A0They haven't been updated in years, and folks can use a p= rior
> release
> of log4j if they want to get to them.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Antony Stubbs
> <antony.stubbs@gmail.com= >wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys, following on from my comment, I've uploaded a propose= d
>> modularisation here:
>>
>> http://github.com/astubbs/log4j= /commit/7c5b4689d5cc509d207e3270fc6f012ea8064c6d
>>
>> http://github.com/astubbs/log4j= /commit/ce3ce992d509e8c341914437bbc11442711fc5bf
>>
>> As well as the module split, I would also do a more complete maven=
>> migration
>> (except for possibly the NT build stuff).
>>
>> My immediate drive for this (apart from the other obvious benefits= ) is
>> the
>> file size of the log4j jar (~800k). Removing LF5 alone removes 490= k
>> (uncompressed).
>>
>> I know this drives up the complexity, but I think it is worth if t= o get
>> the
>> at least the GUI stuff out.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> Antony Stubbs wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys, what's the established opinion from log4j about = breaking
>> > log4j up into modules ie net, nt appender, chainsaw etc?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Antony Stubbs
>> > Technical Architect - Prototyping
>> > Telecom Retail
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------= --------
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>> >
>> >
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