Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16375 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 16:54:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 16:54:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 77474 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2005 16:54:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-log4j-dev-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 77451 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2005 16:54:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 77437 invoked by uid 99); 24 Mar 2005 16:54:06 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from gulcu001.worldcom.ch (HELO mail.qos.ch) (212.74.184.209) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:54:05 -0800 Received: from kal.qos.ch (kal [192.168.1.3]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9794D61; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:54:01 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20050324174335.0420cbd8@torino> X-Sender: ceki@torino (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:55:36 +0100 To: "Log4J Developers List" , "'Log4J Developers List'" From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= Subject: RE: JDJ - log4j vs java.util.logging In-Reply-To: <200503241625.j2OGPM0Z010999@outgoing.mit.edu> References: <1111680958.4242e7be2f317@my.visi.com> <200503241625.j2OGPM0Z010999@outgoing.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N At 05:25 PM 3/24/2005, Yoav Shapira wrote: >Hi, > > > So, is the only concern the brand name "JCL"? It seems to be. > >Yup. > > > If the > > code is > > going to be completely different and not backwards compatible with the > > existing > > "JCL" it isn't really "JCL", so why call it "JCL"? > >Because the brand name is powerful and will lead to rapid adoption. By the same token, many developers are strongly repulsed by that same=20 brand. (I've heard of several oss project who won't touch jakarta commons=20 with a 12-feet pole because of its reliance on JCL.) > > Why not call it > > "UGLI"? And > >Because that's an ugly acronym (pun intended) and an unfamiliar one,= leading >to "yet another logging interface" discussions. Point well taken. Any alternative names on your mind? I'm all ears. :-) --=20 Ceki G=FClc=FC The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.org