Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-log4j-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 21155 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 13:49:24 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (192.18.33.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 13:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18175 invoked by uid 97); 21 Jul 2003 13:51:56 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-log4j-dev@nagoya.betaversion.org Received: (qmail 18168 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 13:51:55 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 13:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 20967 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2003 13:49:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact log4j-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Log4J Developers List" Reply-To: "Log4J Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 20943 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 13:49:21 -0000 Received: from lsne-catv-dhcp-40-12.urbanet.ch (HELO mail.qos.ch) (80.238.40.12) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 13:49:21 -0000 Received: from eitan.qos.ch (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0721EC073 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030721153740.02422440@mail.qos.ch> X-Sender: ceki@mail.qos.ch (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:52:33 +0200 To: "Log4J Developers List" From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= Subject: Re: Announcement: Just4log, a performance-oriented postprocessor for Log4j In-Reply-To: <20030720194854.00007f52.lbruand@wanadoo.fr> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030718234102.02500790@mail.qos.ch> <20030717225031.00002793.lbruand@wanadoo.fr> <5.2.0.9.0.20030718234102.02500790@mail.qos.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N At 07:48 PM 7/20/2003 +0200, Lucas Bruand wrote: >At the very least, it is a heavy argument against people who think that >Logging is a "retro" method to debug and claim that logging is hindering >performance in Java... ( Probably preaching on this list is not very >useful but you'll be surprised how often you hear this kind of thin) Logging maybe retro but its survives the life span of the application. Application logging is analogous to fossils. Fossils are certainly retro but it is the only way to learn about life forms long gone. > Cheers, > Lucas -- Ceki For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org