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From Ceki Gülcü <c...@qos.ch>
Subject Re: Out of commission
Date Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:17:58 GMT

After being a mediocre Emacs user for many years, I recently switched to 
become a mediocre Eclipse user, mainly because of the continuos compilation 
feature. I still occasionally miss Emacs but less so every day.

Regardless of our common preferences, the log4j project needs to be IDE 
agnostic. The jar files, javadoc and the rest must be buildable by Ant.

As a side note, Erich Gamma the author, of "Design Patterns" gave a talk on 
Eclipse at the IBM Zurich Research Lab long before Eclipse became publicly 
known. I think very few people in the audience were interested in Eclipse 
nor expected it to become so successful. I was disappointed by the talk. I 
would have preferred E. Gamma to talk about Design Patterns, not some flaky 
IDE. With hindsight, I can say that it is hard to recognize success even 
when it stares you right in the face.

ps: Virus developers and spammers deserve to go to jail.

At 10:13 PM 6/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>My home computer was infected by a virus early last week, effectively 
>taking me out of commission at home.  I had Norton Antivirus up and 
>running, but it neglected to tell me that I needed to update my 
>subscription to their virus db, so one slipped by and got me.
>I have my computer back up and running, with a nice upgrade to Windows XP 
>in the process, but my development environment is still messed up.  I 
>should be back up and running again in a few days.  I'm going to try 
>setting up Eclipse while I am at it.  Does anyone have an opinion about it?

Ceki  For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
       ISBN: 2970036908  http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp 

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