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From Scott Farquhar <sc...@atlassian.com>
Subject Re: Avalon Logging Toolkit
Date Sun, 03 Feb 2002 23:24:28 GMT
 > Avalon is based on design principles such as inversion of control.
 > Those requirements were conveyed here, and found to be impossible to
 > implement without affecting backwards compatibiltity.  While this is
 > certainly a valid consideration, it did not make the requirements go
 > away.

Thanks Sam - this is what I was originally asking.

Cheers,
Scott

Sam Ruby wrote:

> Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> 
>>It is indeed a straight rip-off from log4j. What is most disturbing is
>>that this is happening within the boundaries of the foundation.  Some
>>people will condone such acts plagiarism in any way they can. It is
>>easier to ignore plagiarism than actually to deal with it.
>>
> 
> Plagiarism is a strong word.  I'm not even sure what it means in an open
> source context.
> 
> In any case, an oversimplication of the history as I understand it: Avalon
> is based on design principles such as inversion of control.  Those
> requirements were conveyed here, and found to be impossible to implement
> without affecting backwards compatibiltity.  While this is certainly a
> valid consideration, it did not make the requirements go away.
> 
> Add in a dash of personallity conflict (example: people who are prone to
> throw around terms like "plagiarism").  And add in the fact that what
> became logkit was actually a part of an apache codebase before log4j ever
> was, and you get the current state.
> 
> While I'm not exactly thrilled with duplication, I certainly prefer it over
> blocking other people's work.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> 
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