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From "Paul Glezen" <pgle...@us.ibm.com>
Subject Re: LoggingEvent Serialization
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:51:51 GMT
The discussion broke down when some wanted to use XML as the serialization
scheme while others wanted to continue to use Java serialization.  I was in
the Java serialization camp.  But the open source community is a "put your
money where your mouth is" type of group.  Since I was not writing or
participating strongly in it myself, I didn't push very hard.

Since then, the folks who were going to undertake the effort (presumably
using XML), were haven't been heard from in a while.

If you've got some good ideas (and time/energy to spend) about how to
improve the serialization, I think it's worth a go.  I don't think you'll
suffer from not seeing the older posts.

- Paul

Paul Glezen
Consulting IT Specialist
IBM Software Services for WebSphere
818 539 3321


Robert Bushman <log4j@traxel.com> on 11/16/2001 12:09:51 PM

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What was the basic spin of the discussion?
"It's easy, just gotta do it.", "It seems
easy, but <problem> is going to be a real
problem", "This is a good idea.", "This is
a bad idea"?

BTW: since I just joined this list, I outta
introduce myself. I wrote the Category Tree
for Chainsaw. "But Chainsaw doesn't have a
Category Tree?!?" Ahhh, but it does:
http://traxel.com/img/chainsaw-screen-01.png

And a brand spankin' new SourceForge project:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/logui/

Here's a recent build if you don't want to
go through the hassle of CVS'ing it.
http://traxel.com/tools/chainsaw.tar.gz

Requires Log4j 1.1.3 (hence my interest in
solving the version issue)

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Paul Glezen wrote:

> Anyone pursuing this might have a look at the log4j-dev archives.  We
> discussed this topic at length back in June or July.
>
> - Paul
>
> Paul Glezen
> Consulting IT Specialist
> IBM Software Services for WebSphere
> 818 539 3321
>
>
> Ceki Gulcu <ceki@qos.ch> on 11/16/2001 08:38:01 AM
>
> Please respond to "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
>
> To:   "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: Question about the properties file. Please Help.
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Anyone interested in adding version support for LoggingEvent
serialization?
> Currently, the sending side and the receiving side of a LoggingEvent have
> to have the same fields. If a field is added or if a field is removed in
> LoggingEvent from one log4j version to the next, if the log4j versions do
> not match, then serialization does not work.
>
> It would be useful if we could gracefully handle *some* changes in
> LoggingEvent. This is quite a nice software engineering problem. Regards,
> Ceki


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