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From "Paul Glezen" <pgle...@us.ibm.com>
Subject Re: LoggingEvent Serialization
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:51:51 GMT
The discussion broke down when some wanted to use XML as the serialization
scheme while others wanted to continue to use Java serialization.  I was in
the Java serialization camp.  But the open source community is a "put your
money where your mouth is" type of group.  Since I was not writing or
participating strongly in it myself, I didn't push very hard.

Since then, the folks who were going to undertake the effort (presumably
using XML), were haven't been heard from in a while.

If you've got some good ideas (and time/energy to spend) about how to
improve the serialization, I think it's worth a go.  I don't think you'll
suffer from not seeing the older posts.

- Paul

Paul Glezen
Consulting IT Specialist
IBM Software Services for WebSphere
818 539 3321

Robert Bushman <log4j@traxel.com> on 11/16/2001 12:09:51 PM

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To:   Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject:  LoggingEvent Serialization

What was the basic spin of the discussion?
"It's easy, just gotta do it.", "It seems
easy, but <problem> is going to be a real
problem", "This is a good idea.", "This is
a bad idea"?

BTW: since I just joined this list, I outta
introduce myself. I wrote the Category Tree
for Chainsaw. "But Chainsaw doesn't have a
Category Tree?!?" Ahhh, but it does:

And a brand spankin' new SourceForge project:

Here's a recent build if you don't want to
go through the hassle of CVS'ing it.

Requires Log4j 1.1.3 (hence my interest in
solving the version issue)

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Paul Glezen wrote:

> Anyone pursuing this might have a look at the log4j-dev archives.  We
> discussed this topic at length back in June or July.
> - Paul
> Paul Glezen
> Consulting IT Specialist
> IBM Software Services for WebSphere
> 818 539 3321
> Ceki Gulcu <ceki@qos.ch> on 11/16/2001 08:38:01 AM
> Please respond to "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> To:   "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: Question about the properties file. Please Help.
> Hello,
> Anyone interested in adding version support for LoggingEvent
> Currently, the sending side and the receiving side of a LoggingEvent have
> to have the same fields. If a field is added or if a field is removed in
> LoggingEvent from one log4j version to the next, if the log4j versions do
> not match, then serialization does not work.
> It would be useful if we could gracefully handle *some* changes in
> LoggingEvent. This is quite a nice software engineering problem. Regards,
> Ceki

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