From general-return-2073-apmail-logging-general-archive=logging.apache.org@logging.apache.org Sun Sep 22 04:16:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1BC51031F for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32733 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2013 04:16:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 32671 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2013 04:16:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: "Logging General" List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list general@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 32663 invoked by uid 99); 22 Sep 2013 04:16:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:16:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 209.85.223.176 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.223.176] (HELO mail-ie0-f176.google.com) (209.85.223.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:16:29 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id as1so4135322iec.35 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id; bh=RHqPq+g5J7gtYjmwMZwgTsXgOCFXWvYsl6+aZiya/t0=; b=jYp8j0Rqt6lyvVsMyghwjuLZhQ0ri1iOsPg6124RLHyeJKG+WYpuax3BB/1NkZo225 tQUq4ieLgvSDPcfYvYLcT90OgHfeUXJFk5a5GNl17g/jkpUSrZZniKHhBE3e5KXlAkNf XqsY7+6KipgvO1dGJRcNh6MRQxlcNQbyAjwT1ODIgeVimv3MqbC2qi03t434l584QER/ +Irr3E8CoQrj1EfLMahGSh1hZC0Hoid6NYxpXRQN2bBIKwPwGl4oWjH1CwuNm/5NugA2 GgDu5Le4GnDv26kX/1tf6O+l5bxVObxKUyVhi7dmrcO2FlKZJMZlABBm/eE8WTjpSF0q gfMA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlCTZhTFZYkUS9lOU48FwuFGIF8hRkbpABe0RP03yoKU/QyyMbfuPqt7QF2XrAxizyNvFuD X-Received: by 10.50.122.40 with SMTP id lp8mr7716579igb.24.1379823368352; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.60.42] ([70.103.196.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i11sm11603747igh.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Goers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2ADF077F-FAD4-4E80-8500-83C5E1C93F81" Subject: Re: 10 years Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:16:05 -0600 In-Reply-To: <523DFB31.1010607@gmail.com> To: "Logging General" References: <523D9969.30504@gmail.com> <523DFB31.1010607@gmail.com> Message-Id: <87F0132C-4CFB-4C96-B101-970A59FC53AF@dslextreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_2ADF077F-FAD4-4E80-8500-83C5E1C93F81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii According to wikipedia and http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html = the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. Where did you get 4 years later = from? According to = http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first = release of Log4j was Oct 15, 1999. Ralph On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >=20 >=20 > Ralph Goers schrieb: >> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j = was in 1999. >=20 > Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF. > Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf > versions too? >=20 >>=20 >> Ralph >>=20 >> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>=20 >>> Folks, >>>=20 >>> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging >>> Services project has been founded in december 2003: >>> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html >>>=20 >>> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!! >>>=20 >>> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our = Scott >>> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, = our >>> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still = help us! >>>=20 >>> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only. >>> Anybody got ideas? >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>> Christian >>>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_2ADF077F-FAD4-4E80-8500-83C5E1C93F81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.apache.org= /history/timeline.html the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. =  Where did you get 4 years later from?  According to http://lo= gging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first = release of Log4j was Oct 15, = 1999.

Ralph

On Sep 21, 2013, at = 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:



Ralph Goers schrieb:
That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first = release of Log4j was in 1999.

Interesting. It was = running 4 years before ASF.
Where the folks from the original charter = working on the pre-asf
versions too?


Ralph

On Sep 21, = 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Folks,

doing the research for a new = article, I realized the Apache = Logging
Services project has been founded in december = 2003:
http://logging.apache.org/= charter.html

This is going to be 10 years in = a short while!!

This is absolutely awesome! = Especially because we still have our = Scott
and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! = It means, our
two fellows are sticking to the = project for 10 years too and still help = us!

I believe we should do something = cool, and be it a blog post = only.
Anybody got = ideas?

Cheers
Christian



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