From general-return-2074-apmail-logging-general-archive=logging.apache.org@logging.apache.org Sun Sep 22 04:20:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF69D10325 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33229 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2013 04:20:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 33185 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2013 04:20:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: "Logging General" List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list general@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 33176 invoked by uid 99); 22 Sep 2013 04:20:11 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:20:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 209.85.223.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.223.177] (HELO mail-ie0-f177.google.com) (209.85.223.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:20:03 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id qd12so4075447ieb.36 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id; bh=UCh4RXdHqw954NVzN8dhvJuET9uwk8K9XpWw4RFNVfw=; b=hfyXssFk3rpMqWaGA7ZvSp0ts25+SuF/CS9myKytKnnOSI1oHdEzo5Kpm8Jr+ylQAp fiKxGJ2hvNTWhFXEu9wzLrZ5jlOaxv6zWNH1g3ZWxaLK37dyiJNHQgNdLjb8HAlnbYPZ 1ALA4GaHNcRKO+fWp1AG7ywOWcy2hGSMReDu0CM1KApuKku6NVP7l4iSKyE0zErt1OhM pTeMgIKKuHS/aT1g5cwmF5sNcYWTpLzRIf0LUHPKUjgg5K9zvBinglIAEUbtZvIFI2Fq chev4j8plc8cUII1/Xea4zN4LAlPryZoHnxESMiKMaTjo05I9vkAVN4ohVO8ODNZfNkE sEPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnvoxapt8bT5sok2e7XSE8b9ZmRwgZDBd4BWM4Of+joyJx8DsRijaOlzLEsskWwI0hSIjAc X-Received: by 10.42.250.201 with SMTP id mp9mr8797344icb.0.1379823582823; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.60.42] ([70.103.196.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y10sm11608251igl.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Goers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C52FEE71-6F6B-4A70-9B7D-B87530CB6F14" Subject: Re: 10 years Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:19:40 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87F0132C-4CFB-4C96-B101-970A59FC53AF@dslextreme.com> To: "Logging General" References: <523D9969.30504@gmail.com> <523DFB31.1010607@gmail.com> <87F0132C-4CFB-4C96-B101-970A59FC53AF@dslextreme.com> Message-Id: <70729B70-1683-43F1-8F63-548FF44F1B26@dslextreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_C52FEE71-6F6B-4A70-9B7D-B87530CB6F14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh - did you mean it was running 4 years before the logging project was = formed? Yes - as Scott pointed out it was first part of Jakarta, which = was a catch all for all Java projects (except stuff like Cocoon which = fell under the XML projects).=20 Ralph On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > According to wikipedia and http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html = the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. Where did you get 4 years later = from? According to = http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first = release of Log4j was Oct 15, 1999. >=20 > Ralph >=20 > On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Ralph Goers schrieb: >>> That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first release of Log4j = was in 1999. >>=20 >> Interesting. It was running 4 years before ASF. >> Where the folks from the original charter working on the pre-asf >> versions too? >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Ralph >>>=20 >>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Folks, >>>>=20 >>>> doing the research for a new article, I realized the Apache Logging >>>> Services project has been founded in december 2003: >>>> http://logging.apache.org/charter.html >>>>=20 >>>> This is going to be 10 years in a short while!! >>>>=20 >>>> This is absolutely awesome! Especially because we still have our = Scott >>>> and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! It means, = our >>>> two fellows are sticking to the project for 10 years too and still = help us! >>>>=20 >>>> I believe we should do something cool, and be it a blog post only. >>>> Anybody got ideas? >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers >>>> Christian >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_C52FEE71-6F6B-4A70-9B7D-B87530CB6F14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Oh - = did you mean it was running 4 years before the logging project was = formed?  Yes - as Scott pointed out it was first part of Jakarta, = which was a catch all for all Java projects (except stuff like Cocoon = which fell under the XML = projects). 

Ralph

On Sep = 21, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:

According to wikipedia = and http://www.apache.org= /history/timeline.html the ASF was incorporated in June 1999. =  Where did you get 4 years later from?  According to http://lo= gging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/changes-report.html the first = release of Log4j was Oct 15, = 1999.

Ralph

On Sep 21, 2013, at = 2:01 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:



Ralph Goers schrieb:
That is pretty awesome. Note though, that the first = release of Log4j was in 1999.

Interesting. It was = running 4 years before ASF.
Where the folks from the original charter = working on the pre-asf
versions too?


Ralph

On Sep 21, = 2013, at 7:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

Folks,

doing the research for a new = article, I realized the Apache = Logging
Services project has been founded in december = 2003:
http://logging.apache.org/= charter.html

This is going to be 10 years in = a short while!!

This is absolutely awesome! = Especially because we still have our = Scott
and I see Jacob pinging the users list from time to time! = It means, our
two fellows are sticking to the = project for 10 years too and still help = us!

I believe we should do something = cool, and be it a blog post = only.
Anybody got = ideas?

Cheers
Christian




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