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From Ivan Habunek <ivan.habu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Logging Site
Date Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:46:07 GMT
I'll take care of log4php next week. On holidays this week.

Regards,
Ivan

On 22 June 2012 17:05, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
>> So where does this leave us in moving the site over?
>
> I think we could simply commit the chainsaw binary into the cms folders.
>
> But actually I believe infra will eat us if they ever find out we
> distribute binaries from the CMS folder. Therefore I would say we make
> up a regular download page and reference to the dmg and the zip only
> (dropping the jnlp) and use the mirroring system.
>
> Scott, its your domain- what do you say to that?
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:51 AM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I believe we bypass the mirror system because the mirror system doesn't
>> support the jnlp protocol (handling the mime type)..
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> An icon is usually added to the user's start menu and/or desktop, which
>>> launches javaws and uses the jnlp protocol, so they don't need to go back to
>>> the link to get the benefit of autoupdates.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > The benefit of webstart is updates are automatically downloaded and
>>>> > installed.  The link actually tries to check jars each time you start
>>>> > the
>>>> > app and will update automatically if there are new ones.
>>>>
>>>> yes understood.
>>>>
>>>> Does the user (i am a webstart noob) always need to click on our
>>>> webpage to start the app?
>>>> And, do we actually bypass the mirror system here or am I wrong with
>>>> my assumption? Not sure if that is really relevant because I don't
>>>> know about the user base
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Scott
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> > <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > I think the gotcha there had something to do with making sure
the
>>>> >> > jnlp
>>>> >> > file mapping was correctly supported. It has been about eight
years,
>>>> >> > but
>>>> >> > that is my recollection.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > That and the stupid maven template support would not allow
us to use
>>>> >> > an
>>>> >> > image as the link (a 'launch' webstart graphical button as
the link)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Is there something speaking against downloading an exe/dmg/zip via
the
>>>> >> usual download system?
>>>> >> Or is webstart the killer feature for chainsaw? :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Scott
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> >> > <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Ralph Goers
>>>> >> >> <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> I believe all the hard work on the logging site is
completed
>>>> >> >>> however
>>>> >> >>> some of the sub projects are yet to be published.  I
would like to
>>>> >> >>> have
>>>> >> >>> infra convert loggingtest.apache.org to logging.apache.org
but I
>>>> >> >>> don't want
>>>> >> >>> to get 404s on those sub projects.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> I looked at chainsaw and the download page will certainly
break if
>>>> >> >>> I
>>>> >> >>> were to just copy the content.  I'm not sure about
the others.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Just added log4cxx to loggingtest.a.o. Its using the download
>>>> >> >> script
>>>> >> >> which generates a list of mirrors so no problem here. In
addition I
>>>> >> >> completed the branding requirements for log4cxx so we can
leave
>>>> >> >> that
>>>> >> >> untouched for a while now.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I am not sure on the chainsaw one. It seems to bypass the
mirroring
>>>> >> >> system which is kind a bad. Instead we should change the
site to
>>>> >> >> use
>>>> >> >> the download script imho. Maybe Scott can comment here.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> That being said, the chainsaw site needs an appropriate
footer.
>>>> >> >> Basically the maven.vm template could be used in chainsaw
too. So
>>>> >> >> we
>>>> >> >> have 2 tasks here, update to branding and use the mirror
system.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> cheers
>>>> >> >> Christian
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Ralph
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> >> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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