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[99.180.69.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jv6sm2325428pbc.40.2012.05.23.09.32.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 May 2012 09:33:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Goers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C75FAFC5-0D6E-48A6-9668-3206C3A7BA81" Subject: Re: Logging web sites Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:32:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "Logging General" References: <7F1F7665-D82D-4374-988C-F400A3610205@dslextreme.com> <5A721A48-89B0-41E1-A245-CB62837C1B36@dslextreme.com> <68FC237E-97CF-418E-8AAF-1ED6C7E21635@dslextreme.com> <5C8B3DE5-AA06-4548-96D9-27A0EE5B8D97@dslextreme.com> <2913190B-6E3B-4223-B3FF-98A09CCF89EB@dslextreme.com> <6D894D2D-A0B7-4BE4-9919-738AC3157965@apache.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkF1Y52v29EMFAxS5cCnFs3cs3UbVLRKHKV2Q+XCBMnlEKc8o4HQhCnNJZxxVPaVY2qvzKp X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_C75FAFC5-0D6E-48A6-9668-3206C3A7BA81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks. Please let me know when we are at the point where I can try to = add Log4j 2 on to the site. Ralph On May 23, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: > I have given infra the requirements. We're waiting for them to set it = up. >=20 > Regards, > Ivan >=20 > On 23 May 2012 17:57, Ralph Goers wrote: > Ivan, >=20 > Were you able to get a test site to work yet? >=20 > Ralph >=20 > On May 22, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: >=20 >> Yeah, sorry I haven't been more involved in the discussion. I've been = to the phpday conference in Verona, and haven't had time to catch up. >>=20 >> I posted a comment to the INFRA ticket with the required information. = I'll keep in the loop from now on to answer any other questions. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Ivan >>=20 >>=20 >> On 22 May 2012 13:40, Ralph Goers wrote: >> Ivan,=20 >>=20 >> Daniel has updated the Jira and asked "Can you provide a list of = dependencies of your site's build process? (as port names -- see = www.freshports.org -- for those deps that are in ports)" >>=20 >> Since you have actually built the test site could you possibly help = with this? The issue is = https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699. >>=20 >> Ralph >>=20 >> On May 2, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Ivan Habunek = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi all,=20 >>>=20 >>> I was away for a bit so I didn't comment earlier.=20 >>>=20 >>> My idea is to generate the site using Twig [1], a nice PHP = templating engine, in combination with Textile markup [2], which is much = more versatile than most other common markup languages (such as = markdown, apt, ...). >>>=20 >>> I have already converted the logging web site. The code can be found = here: >>> = http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-twig-te= xtile/ >>>=20 >>> And I have deployed the generated web for demo here: >>> http://bezdomni.net/logging/ >>>=20 >>> This idea is obviously not compatible with the Apache CMS solution. = Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS since, from what I have = seen, the CMS is quite a pain to use. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Ivan >>>=20 >>> [1] http://twig.sensiolabs.org/ >>> [2] http://textile.sitemonks.com/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 2 May 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier = wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Ralph Goers = wrote: >>> > >>> > On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > What i thought was, why not to clean it up? Your proposed = solutions >>> > seem to be the cleanest way and updating everything just when we = need >>> > an update to the main site feels somehow wrong >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site = along >>> > with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each = sub-project would >>> > then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. = This sounds >>> > perfect to me. >>>=20 >>> OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". Sounds ok. >>>=20 >>> I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the = website design: >>> = http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-redesig= n/src/site/pages/ >>>=20 >>> I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use = that >>> design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one >>> too... >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>> Christian >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> > Ralph >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>> https://www.timeandbill.de >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_C75FAFC5-0D6E-48A6-9668-3206C3A7BA81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks. Please let me know when we are at the point where I can try to add Log4j 2 on to the site.

Ralph

On May 23, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

I have given infra the requirements. We're waiting for them to set it up.

Regards,
Ivan

On 23 May 2012 17:57, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
Ivan,

Were you able to get a test site to work yet?

Ralph

On May 22, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

Yeah, sorry I haven't been more involved in the discussion. I've been to the phpday conference in Verona, and haven't had time to catch up.

I posted a comment to the INFRA ticket with the required information. I'll keep in the loop from now on to answer any other questions.

Regards,
Ivan


On 22 May 2012 13:40, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
Ivan, 

Daniel has updated the Jira and asked "Can you provide a list of dependencies of your site's build process?  (as port names -- see www.freshports.org -- for those deps that are in ports)"

Since you have actually built the test site could you possibly help with this? The issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699.

Ralph

On May 2, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Ivan Habunek <ivan.habunek@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, 

I was away for a bit so I didn't comment earlier. 

My idea is to generate the site using Twig [1], a nice PHP templating engine, in combination with Textile markup [2], which is much more versatile than most other common markup languages (such as markdown, apt, ...).

I have already converted the logging web site. The code can be found here:

And I have deployed the generated web for demo here:

This idea is obviously not compatible with the Apache CMS solution. Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS since, from what I have seen, the CMS is quite a pain to use.

Regards,
Ivan



On 2 May 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
> What i thought was, why not to clean it up? Your proposed solutions
> seem to be the cleanest way and updating everything just when we need
> an update to the main site feels somehow wrong
>
>
> Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site along
> with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each sub-project would
> then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. This sounds
> perfect to me.

OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". Sounds ok.

I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the website design:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-redesign/src/site/pages/

I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use that
design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one
too...

Cheers
Christian


> Ralph





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