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[99.180.69.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c6sm7442538obl.22.2012.05.27.13.28.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 May 2012 13:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Goers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8630C9BC-55F9-4F60-87D1-2887C8D7991E" Subject: Re: Logging web sites Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:28:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "Logging General" References: <7F1F7665-D82D-4374-988C-F400A3610205@dslextreme.com> <5A721A48-89B0-41E1-A245-CB62837C1B36@dslextreme.com> <68FC237E-97CF-418E-8AAF-1ED6C7E21635@dslextreme.com> <5C8B3DE5-AA06-4548-96D9-27A0EE5B8D97@dslextreme.com> <2913190B-6E3B-4223-B3FF-98A09CCF89EB@dslextreme.com> <6D894D2D-A0B7-4BE4-9919-738AC3157965@apache.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlUIQrwXMMmFJ/7fTxaUhyBHQ4MdiE+Hv+mQQdP3jDkL+U2ykLEwZvLHzEVixkSPxgtvqqd --Apple-Mail=_8630C9BC-55F9-4F60-87D1-2887C8D7991E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've checked in what Ivan did to = https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/cms/trunk as = Herve suggested. I found 1 bug in build.php and fixed that and added a = requirement to specify the output directory on the command line. I also = moved the content and templates to the appropriate directories.=20 Ralph On May 23, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Thanks. Please let me know when we are at the point where I can try to = add Log4j 2 on to the site. >=20 > Ralph >=20 > On May 23, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: >=20 >> I have given infra the requirements. We're waiting for them to set it = up. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Ivan >>=20 >> On 23 May 2012 17:57, Ralph Goers wrote: >> Ivan, >>=20 >> Were you able to get a test site to work yet? >>=20 >> Ralph >>=20 >> On May 22, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: >>=20 >>> Yeah, sorry I haven't been more involved in the discussion. I've = been to the phpday conference in Verona, and haven't had time to catch = up. >>>=20 >>> I posted a comment to the INFRA ticket with the required = information. I'll keep in the loop from now on to answer any other = questions. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Ivan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 22 May 2012 13:40, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> Ivan,=20 >>>=20 >>> Daniel has updated the Jira and asked "Can you provide a list of = dependencies of your site's build process? (as port names -- see = www.freshports.org -- for those deps that are in ports)" >>>=20 >>> Since you have actually built the test site could you possibly help = with this? The issue is = https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699. >>>=20 >>> Ralph >>>=20 >>> On May 2, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Ivan Habunek = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi all,=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I was away for a bit so I didn't comment earlier.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> My idea is to generate the site using Twig [1], a nice PHP = templating engine, in combination with Textile markup [2], which is much = more versatile than most other common markup languages (such as = markdown, apt, ...). >>>>=20 >>>> I have already converted the logging web site. The code can be = found here: >>>> = http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-twig-te= xtile/ >>>>=20 >>>> And I have deployed the generated web for demo here: >>>> http://bezdomni.net/logging/ >>>>=20 >>>> This idea is obviously not compatible with the Apache CMS solution. = Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS since, from what I have = seen, the CMS is quite a pain to use. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> Ivan >>>>=20 >>>> [1] http://twig.sensiolabs.org/ >>>> [2] http://textile.sitemonks.com/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 2 May 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier = wrote: >>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Ralph Goers = wrote: >>>> > >>>> > On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > What i thought was, why not to clean it up? Your proposed = solutions >>>> > seem to be the cleanest way and updating everything just when we = need >>>> > an update to the main site feels somehow wrong >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site = along >>>> > with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each = sub-project would >>>> > then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. = This sounds >>>> > perfect to me. >>>>=20 >>>> OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". Sounds = ok. >>>>=20 >>>> I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the = website design: >>>> = http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-redesig= n/src/site/pages/ >>>>=20 >>>> I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use = that >>>> design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one >>>> too... >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers >>>> Christian >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> > Ralph >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8630C9BC-55F9-4F60-87D1-2887C8D7991E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I've = checked in what Ivan did to = https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/cms/trunk as = Herve suggested.  I found 1 bug in build.php and fixed that and = added a requirement to specify the output directory on the command line. = I also moved the content and templates to the appropriate = directories. 

Ralph

On = May 23, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:

Thanks. Please let me know when = we are at the point where I can try to add Log4j 2 on to the = site.

Ralph

On May 23, 2012, = at 9:30 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

I have = given infra the requirements. We're waiting for them to set it = up.

Regards,
Ivan

On 23 May 2012 17:57, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
Ivan,

Were you able to = get a test site to work yet?

Ralph

On May 22, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ivan = Habunek wrote:

Yeah, sorry I haven't = been more involved in the discussion. I've been to the phpday conference = in Verona, and haven't had time to catch up.

I posted a comment to the INFRA ticket with the required = information. I'll keep in the loop from now on to answer any other = questions.
=

Regards,
Ivan


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 22 May 2012 13:40, Ralph Goers <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
Ivan, 

Daniel has = updated the Jira and asked "Can you provide a list of dependencies of = your site's build process?  (as port names -- see www.freshports.org -- for those deps that are = in ports)"

Since you have actually built the test site could = you possibly help with this? The issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699.

Ralph

On = May 2, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Ivan Habunek <ivan.habunek@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi = all, 

I was away for a bit so I didn't comment = earlier. 

My idea is to generate the site = using Twig [1], a nice PHP templating engine, in combination with = Textile markup [2], which is much more versatile than most other common = markup languages (such as markdown, apt, ...).

I have already converted the logging web site. The = code can be found here:

And I have deployed the generated web for demo = here:

This idea is obviously not compatible with the = Apache CMS solution. Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS = since, from what I have seen, the CMS is quite a pain to = use.

=
Regards,
Ivan



On 2 May = 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>
> What i thought was, why not to clean it up? Your proposed = solutions
> seem to be the cleanest way and updating everything just when we = need
> an update to the main site feels somehow wrong
>
>
> Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site = along
> with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each = sub-project would
> then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. This = sounds
> perfect to me.

OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". = Sounds ok.

I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the website = design:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/ex= perimental-redesign/src/site/pages/

I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use = that
design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one
too...

Cheers
Christian


> Ralph


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