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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:03:45 +0200
From: Stephan Strittmatter <Stephan@st-strittmatter.name>
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BTW, I would feel honored if my project would be worth and I would
donate my sources as a basis to Apache.

I will spend also more effort and time on the contribution in future.

Currently I am in contact with the project leader of log4javascript (at
SF). The project is very similar to Log4js and he is also interested in
spending effort on Apache.

I will have a deeper look on log4javascript during the next days, but it
looks for me rather easy to combine these two projects to get the best
from both.

Cheers, Stephan
http://log4js.berlios.de


Stephan Strittmatter schrieb:
> Curt Arnold schrieb:
>> On Aug 3, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Stephan Strittmatter wrote:
>>
>>> I think the time is now worth to think about a JavaScript logging
>>> framework hosted on Apache Logging site. What do you think? In the last
>>> months there have came up a lot of frameworks in this direction. I
>>> collected them partly on
>>> http://log4js.berlios.de/links.html#otherProjects and the list is still
>>> growing.
>>>
>>> IMHO it is a good idea to consolidate this big set to a solid framework
>>> on Apache.
>>>
>>> Yes, I have also designed such a framework (when starting I found no one
>>> else doing that 1,5 years ago) together with Seth, but I can see there a
>>> lot other worthy frameworks which could be probably merged together on
>>> Apache Logging.
>>>
>>> What do you think about this?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Stephan Strittmatter
>> I'm supportive but personally resource constrained.  If a JavaScript
>> framework (or frameworks) were to happen in Logging Services, their
>> would need to be new contributors making substantial contributions in
>> time and effort.
>>
>> I think the best next step would be to establish mechanisms for
>> discussion and brainstorming and then inviting authors of JavaScript
>> frameworks and other interested parties to discuss what could or should
>> be done.  Some possible mechanisms (one or more could be used):
>>
>> general@logging.apache.org mailing list
>> a log4js JIRA project
>> a log4js Wiki
>> a sandbox area in the SVN
>>
>> Any others?
> 
> I think this will be a good start. On my project at
> http://log4js.berlios.de I use also these mechanisms. Probably also some
> webspace would be greate.
> 
>> I'm not sure that it is a good idea to try to unify one implementation,
>> but I think it would be beneficial to try to define (likely not
>> rigorously) a spec and provide one or more interoperable implementation
>> and a test suite.
> 
> Yes, it will be difficult to unify them. I already tried to contact some
> of the projects, but still with no success.
> 
>> Potential implementations:
>>
>> JavaScript bridge to log4net that would be useful for ASP.NET code so
>> that logging from the script code could be interspersed with traditional
>> log4net logging from .NET components.
>>
> 
> This I want to add this also to Log4js
> 
>> Same thing for Java using log4j.
> 
> Currently I work on this for Log4js.
> 
> For PHP there exists already a small example in the svn.
> 
>> "Pure" javascript implementation for browser-side code.
> 
> This exists already in Log4js using different Appenders and Layouts.
> 
>> Others?
>>
>> I'd appreciate comments, suggestions and indications of interest.
>>
> 
> For the Web2.0 and Ajax Hype, the bridges to the servers (.NET, Java,
> PHP) will get more and more important. Because of that I currently work
> on this. The problem is, that I am not familiar with .NET.