From general-return-622-apmail-logging-general-archive=logging.apache.org@logging.apache.org Mon Sep 26 15:19:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41729 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2005 15:19:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2005 15:19:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18317 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2005 15:19:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 18211 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2005 15:19:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: "Logging General" List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list general@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 18162 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2005 15:19:09 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:19:09 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [24.93.47.43] (HELO ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com) (24.93.47.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:19:14 -0700 Received: from [192.168.10.100] (cpe-24-27-74-67.houston.res.rr.com [24.27.74.67]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j8QFIh9C027361 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:18:44 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <4956.1127680036@www50.gmx.net> References: <4956.1127680036@www50.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--883131650 Message-Id: <254B1F98-8CA4-4C99-AAA2-200339A1E66D@apache.org> From: Curt Arnold Subject: Re: JULI proposal Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:18:43 -0500 To: Logging General X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-11--883131650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Sep 25, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Boris Unckel wrote: > - the "J"ava."U"til."L"ogging "I"mplementation does _not_ > implement the API as described in JSR-47 or implemented as in J2E > 1.4+. It > just adds features to the existing API. > Do you see why we might be confused? But we can worry about the naming later. > Do you have a Contributor's License Agreement > (http://www.apache.org/licenses) on file? > If I understand the question right: No, I did not sign an agreement > on paper > and send it to the Apache Foundation. I will do this if needed. It will be necessary before anything can be done with the code and in this case, likely a Software Grant Agreement would need to be executed and potentially a Corporate Contributor License Agreement depending on your employment situation. > >> >> Do you think that the code would need to go through the Incubator >> > (http://incubator.apache.org) > Yes. As I understand the process, one has to provide several things, > but one has not to provide all that tasks at once. > Hopefully some people will help me to success working on the > checklists. > As I stated - I am looking for a "sandbox" (like Jakarta Commons), you > call it "incubator". By the way - what is the difference? > Incubator is the mechanism that non-ASF code is brought into ASF. If you are IBM and want to donate a database (Derby) or a SourceForge project (log4net, log4cxx) that wants to move to ASF, you must go through the incubation process to make sure that the transfer of intellectual property rights is legally defendable and that a healthy community is formed. A sandbox is an area for Apache developers to experiment. The code is ASF code (due to our CLA's and our intentionally committing of the code to the Apache SVN) from the beginning and does not need the legal review necessary for an incubated project. Sandbox efforts may or may not result in a viable long term product. > >> >> Is JULI an acronym? If so, what is the full name? >> > Java Util Logging Implementation. The name was invented on the > log4j-dev > mailing list in march/april 2005. Please do not fix me on the date, > I have > to look this up. Changing "Implementation" to "Integration" might preserve the acronym while bringing it closer to what the code does. --Apple-Mail-11--883131650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Sep 25, 2005, = at 3:27 PM, Boris Unckel wrote:
- the "J"ava."U"til."L"ogging "I"mplementation does = _not_
implement the API as described = in JSR-47 or implemented as in J2E 1.4+. It
just = adds features to the existing API.
Do you see why we might be = confused?=A0 But we can worry about the naming later.


Do you have=A0 = a Contributor's License Agreement
If I understand the question right: No, I did not = sign an agreement on paper
and send it = to the Apache Foundation. I will do this if = needed.

It will be necessary before = anything can be done with the code and in this case, likely a Software = Grant Agreement would need to be executed and potentially a Corporate = Contributor License Agreement depending on your employment = situation.





Do you think that the code would need to go through = the Incubator=A0
=
(http://incubator.apache.org)
Yes. As I understand the process, one has to provide = several things,
but one has not to provide all = that tasks at once.
Hopefully some people will = help me to success working on the checklists.
As I stated - I am looking for a "sandbox" (like = Jakarta Commons), you
call it "incubator". By the = way - what is the difference?



Incubator is the mechanism = that non-ASF code is brought into ASF.=A0 If you are IBM and want to = donate a database (Derby) or a SourceForge project (log4net, log4cxx) = that wants to move to ASF, you must go through the incubation process to = make sure that the transfer of intellectual property rights is legally = defendable and that a healthy community is formed.

A sandbox is an area for = Apache developers to experiment.=A0 The code is ASF code (due to our = CLA's and our intentionally committing of the code to the Apache SVN) = from the beginning and does not need the legal review necessary for an = incubated project.=A0 Sandbox efforts may or may not result in a viable = long term product.=A0


Is JULI an acronym?=A0 If so, what is the full = name?

Java Util = Logging Implementation. The name was invented on the log4j-dev
mailing list in march/april 2005. Please do not fix = me on the date, I have
to look this = up.


Changing "Implementation" = to "Integration" might preserve the acronym while bringing it closer to = what the code does.
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