Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6122 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2004 17:22:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2004 17:22:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 63966 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2004 17:22:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 63927 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2004 17:22:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: "Logging General" Delivered-To: mailing list general@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 63909 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jul 2004 17:22:19 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [80.238.41.184] (HELO mail.qos.ch) (80.238.41.184) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:22:15 -0700 Received: from kal.qos.ch (kal [192.168.1.3]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9B51EC1CB for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:35:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040708190429.035e6e90@mail.qos.ch> X-Sender: ceki@mail.qos.ch (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:22:30 +0200 To: From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= Subject: Re: C++ developers Wanted In-Reply-To: <40EC76C2.9000201@apache.org> References: <40EC76C2.9000201@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Micha=EBl, Attracting new committers is the most interesting part of managing open source projects. 3 factors seems to matter the most. 1) Technical merits of the project. In particular, it should not be too hard for a beginner to start contributing in his or her particular area of interest. 2) The project should have either economic or educational value or both. It should be interesting enough to attract new talent. 3) The ambiance or cultural setting of the project. The project environment should be pleasant. The charisma of the lead developer(s) can be a determining factor. (It's not that I have any charisma, I am just noting that it is an important factor.) Another crucial factor is longevity. After initial success, many developers tend to overestimate their capabilities and try to do too much. Staying focused can make the difference between success and failure. In short, my recommendation would be to stay focused, implement only the most important features and not be afraid to prune out fluff. At 12:18 AM 7/8/2004, Micha=EBl CATANZARITI wrote: >Hi all, > >At the present time, I am the only developer, tester, manager, doc writer,= =20 >... on the log4cxx project :-( > >I am currenlty looking for commited developers to help with coding ... > >If you are interested, please contact me directly. > >Regards, > >-- >Micha=EBl CATANZARITI >log4cxx project manager > > log4cxx user mailing list: > mailto:log4cxx-user-subscribe@logging.apache.org > > log4cxx developer mailing list: > mailto:log4cxx-dev-subscribe@logging.apache.org --=20 Ceki G=FClc=FC For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp =20