Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 43243 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 04:11:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 04:11:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 62513 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2004 04:11:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-logging-general-archive@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 62474 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2004 04:11:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@logging.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: "Logging General" Delivered-To: mailing list general@logging.apache.org Received: (qmail 62460 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jul 2004 04:11:08 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [209.237.227.194] (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (209.237.227.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with SMTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:11:08 -0700 Received: (qmail 43181 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 04:11:07 -0000 Received: from localhost.hyperreal.org (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 04:11:07 -0000 Message-ID: <40FDECD1.5070303@apache.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:10:57 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_CATANZARITI?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040615) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Logging General Subject: a few remarks about Web sites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi all ! These are a few remarks about web sites Logging: - I think the main web site should have a direct link to the Apache home page (like in log4cxx, log4net, and log4php) - May be each sister project should have the same top items in the menu bar - Each sister project should have the same font - The "Bug Reporting" section in the logging site is too specific to log4j. How can add a link to log4cxx Jira repository ? Logj: In the "Plan" section, the link to "Cactus project's roadmap" is broken In the "Download" section, the link to log4cxx, logphp, log4net are the old ones but the not the Apache ones. May be could you specify official Apache logging sister projects separately from the other ports. Theses remarks not only concerning the web sites : What about having the same XML schema or DTD for all projects with the a main tag "apache.logging" instead of "log4j" or "log4php" or "log4net" ? We could have some common names for common Layouts and Appender : "apache.logging.FileAppender", "apache.logging.ConsoleAppender", "apache.logging.PatternLayout", but let each sister project add specific appenders and layout. We could find a common format spec for the PatternLayout. We could publish the XML schema or DTD (I prefer xchema) on the main logging site. We could public common UML diagrams (Platform Independant Models, the left branch of the MDA Y) in the main logging site. We could have a common road map to support new Appenders, Layouts, or common features. That's all for the moment :-)) Regards, -- Micha�l CATANZARITI log4cxx project manager log4cxx user mailing list: mailto:log4cxx-user-subscribe@logging.apache.org log4cxx developer mailing list: mailto:log4cxx-dev-subscribe@logging.apache.org