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From Ceki Gülcü <c...@qos.ch>
Subject RE: logging and log4perl
Date Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:59:06 GMT

Sure. We can do that.

At 10:49 AM 3/31/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>hmm... ok... sounds like licensing might kill this.
>
>would it be at least possible to link to the log4perl stuff from the logging
>services website? perhaps under some title like "related non-asf software"
>or something?
>
>dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:ceki@qos.ch]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:21 AM
>To: Logging General
>Subject: RE: logging and log4perl
>
>
>Hi David,
>
>At 01:47 PM 3/30/2004 -0800, Viner, David wrote:
> >Excellent.  Thanks for the encouragement.  From reading the notes on the
> >incubator website, and the log4net example, here's what I can see as the
> >steps:
> >
> >1. Log4Perl community submits proposal.
>
>Yes, that is the main hurdle.
>
> >2. Need to be nominated for incubation by a member of ASF.
> >3. Need to be approved by a sponsor (Logging Services)
>
>I do not see a problem in this case.
>
> >http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html mentions this
> >proposal, but doesn't specify what it should contain. Can I see the
>proposal
> >for log4net and use that as a template?
>
>Don't worry about it. I'll take care of it in due time.
>
> > >From reading the policy, it looks like the code is required to be:
> >         - hosted in CVS on apache.org
>
>absolutely.
>
> >         - licensed under Apache Software license.
>
>absolutely.
>
> >Is hosting the code on sourceforge's cvs tree sufficient? or will we need
>to
> >move the code to apache's cvs?  and similarly with documentation... will
> >that need to move to logging.apache.org site instead of the it's current
> >location?
>
>You have to move both the CVS and the docs. The whole things does not make
>much sense otherwise, or does it?
>
> >The Log4perl code is currently licensed as
> >"This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
> >under the same terms as Perl itself."
> >Is this compatible with ASL? or will we need to alter it?  I believe perl
>is
> >distributed under the "Artistic license", but I have no idea the
> >relationship between this and the Apache Software License.
>
>Hmm. Bummer. The ASF will not host anything which is not ASL licensed. So
>the
>license would need to be changed. I do not know how much of a problem
>it is for the log4perl community but I know for sure that the ASF will
>not accept anything not under the ASL, double licensing is also not
>acceptable. I am sorry, that is just the way that it is.
>
> >Thanks.
> >dave viner
>
>--
>Ceki Gülcü
>
>       For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
>       ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp

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Ceki Gülcü

      For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
      ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp  



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