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From "Shapira, Yoav" <Yoav.Shap...@mpi.com>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL]: Migrate Bugzilla to JIRA for the LS Project
Date Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:47:43 GMT

-1 for now: my objections are basically the same as many of the commons committers, and they
are on more of a philosophical ground.  JIRA is not free, it's just free for our use by donation
from a company.  I think ASF should use a free open-source issue tracker, such as bugzilla
(or scarab).

The issue of management as Ceki mentioned is also a detractor.  But possibly the biggest detractor
of all is that I don't mind bugzilla, I think it works fine, so I'm a big fan of the KISS/If-it-ain't-broken-don't-fix-it

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Smith [mailto:paul.smith@lawlex.com.au]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:48 PM
>To: Logging General
>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL]: Migrate Bugzilla to JIRA for the LS Project
>On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 08:32, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>> I wonder why the other projects chose to migrate to JIRA. What is wrong
>> with what we have currently, or what does JIRA bring to the table?
>I've personally found that Bugzilla is a little hard to manage (we use
>it at my work too).  JIRA seems to have an easier to use interface, and
>can be setup to suit individuals (both the issue reporter, and the issue
>resolver).  If you take a few moments to have a browse around JIRA, I
>think you might like it.
>> Migrating our existing Bugzilla database to JIRA is probably no small
>> task. Are you sure the move is worth your effort?
>I wouldn't expect it to be easy, be nice if it was.  There are already
>learnings about this process from others within Apache, so I would
>expect not to encounter anywhere near the effort the 'first-timers'
>> Some people might object to have part of our project infrastructure
>> run outside the ASF. It may not be an issue right now, but I bet
>> it will become an issue at a later time.
>I was also hoping that this would not be the case for too long, I could
>not see a reason why JIRA could not be hosted by Apache.  Enough Apache
>projects seemed to be moving to this, it seems worth considering.
>This is of course why this is a proposal, so that everyone can discuss
>further. If there is no grass-roots support for the move, there's no
>point. I just wanted to take the time to let people think about it.

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