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From: Danny Angus <danny@apache.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:46:07 +0000
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Subject: Re: The Future of Apache Labs
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archived-at: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:17:01 -0000

Hi Guys,
welcome and thanks for you interest. For the time being please get
involved in the discussions and get a feel for what the opportunity is
and the drawbacks are.
Think about how you would attract others in your projects to start a
lab, and ideas for labs of your own.
If we aren't able to use labs ourselves we can't expect others to join us!

Danny

On 8 March 2017 at 16:50, john pradeep <yehohanan7@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am looking for some interesting project to contribute to, hope I can do
> that through labs!
>
>
> Thanks
>
> On Wed 8 Mar, 2017, 1:37 PM Ivan Barrera A., <Bruce@ivn.cl> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> :P
>>
>>
>> On 03/07/2017 03:50 PM, Danny Angus wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm Danny. I'm the current PMC of Apache Labs http://labs.apache.org
>> >
>> > You may not know about Apache Labs, but it was founded a few years ago
>> > to provide the ability for committers to spin up new projects at the
>> > ASF. Our website says:
>> >
>> > "The aim is to provide the necessary resource to promote and maintain
>> > the innovative power within the Apache community without the burden of
>> > community building.
>> > Research efforts are intrinsically associated with a higher mortality
>> > rate and don't satisfy the established incubation and development
>> > practices. Labs provides a place for the Apache committer community to
>> > collaborate on such efforts - without discrimination of purpose,
>> > medium or implementation technology."
>> >
>> > But labs needs a shot in the arm, we already know that the project
>> > doesn't live up to the aspirations of the statements above, and that
>> > the service provided needs to be modernised and made relevant. What we
>> > don't know is whether *you* think that this is worth doing, we don't
>> > know whether we should we revitalise Labs for your use, or retire it.
>> >
>> > So I am calling on all interested, or merely curious, parties from
>> > across the ASF to subscribe to labs@labs.apache.org
>> > <mailto:labs@labs.apache.org> and let me know if you are prepared to
>> > help put Apache Labs on the map.
>> >
>> > If enough people offer a little of their time I will steer the group
>> > to do some "market research" (we are the market) and create a
>> > consensus proposal for a refurbished Labs offering, then we will
>> > validate that with you, and see if it gets enough interest to make it
>> > worth implementing. If there is not enough volunteer help to assist
>> > with the awareness activity and the research the Labs project will be
>> > retired.
>> >
>> > Personally I don't want to see Labs retired, I think that it would
>> > enrich the ASF if we had a useful service for committers who want to
>> > innovate from scratch, and a lively community of innovators and mentors.
>> >
>> > If you think that labs is worth saving and are prepared to devote some
>> > of your time to helping me, please subscribe to the labs@labs list and
>> > say "hi".
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time, and please remember not to spam commiters@ or
>> > cross post, come to labs@labs if you want to engage in the discussion.
>> >
>> > Danny
>>
>>

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