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From: Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org>
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:52:00 -0500
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To me this response is starting to get to the spirit of what I see and =
feel when I read the current introduction/welcome section on the labs =
site as well as the call to action which drew a number of us to sign up =
to discuss it. It has appeal.

Some where to just start some source code, literally just that, and then =
move it to the incubator, but doesn=E2=80=99t have necessary features, =
nor support experimentation, concepts which may indeed fail fast, =
support the ability of others to quickly play with the result, not just =
the sources, nor necessarily have the spirit of innovation, doesn=E2=80=99=
t sound very appealing to me.

To me, this is starting to get to the heart of =E2=80=9CWhy isn=E2=80=99t =
labs currently successful?=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CWhat can we do to make =
it better?=E2=80=9D from my perspective.

Thanks,

Wade


> On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:27, Danny Angus <danny.angus@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi John,
> Yes, I think those are areas we need to address. I particularly like =
the
> idea that you have just sparked in me, that labs is a place where a
> community already exists, to develop new code, but what is missing is =
not
> the basic infrastructure, but the Apache processes. It should be a =
sandbox
> for communities to get  their experiment up to speed with mailing =
lists,
> websites, releases etc. *Before* going to through the incubator. OR it
> should be a place for experimentation were there is a clear =
"definition of
> done" for each experiment. I think we have a split personality :-)
> D.
>=20
>=20
> On 10 Mar 2017 1:05 pm, "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>=20
> Ping? :-)
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:11 PM John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>> Hi there
>>=20
>> Saw Danny's note and figured I'd drop a note over here.
>>=20
>> I'm interested in labs, however there's some limitations that concern =
me.
>>=20
>> 1. Labs projects can't do releases.
>> 2. Labs projects all write to a single SVN tree structure - no git.
>> 3. Projects don't get mailing lists.
>>=20
>> Really my hope is to build a bit more of a community before moving =
into an
>> incubating project.
>>=20
>> So, can labs help me?
>>=20
>> John
>>=20


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