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From Danny Angus <>
Subject Re: Reasons for not using Github ...
Date Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:42:18 GMT
I think that there is a conflation of issues at play here that I would
like to tease out,

#1 What are the essential characteristics of the missing "release"
that some believe disadvantage us

#2 What is the ban on labs releases intended to achieve

and knowing these two things can we interpolate a solution that
simultaneously satisfies both 1&2?


On 8 March 2017 at 21:07, Dennis Gove <> wrote:
> I'm a fan of not allowing official releases from @labs. There's an implied
> contract with an Apache release and I suspect a project in @labs wouldn't
> (necessarily) be able to live up to that (nor should they feel they have
> to). If a project is at a point where it can live up to the contract of an
> official release, maybe that is one of the deciding factors in moving out
> of @labs into the incubator.
> That said, perhaps there a way to support a type of release so a @labs
> project could gain additional traction. Perhaps a requirement that the
> version include "-LABS", or "-SNAPSHOT", or other to clearly indicate via
> the version that the release is not official.
> - Dennis
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <> wrote:
>> Well, there was an implied "as of now" :). You're obviously correct (and
>> don't call me Shirley, sorry couldn't resist).
>> That said, as I mentioned a while ago, wouldn't this make it sort of an
>> incubator@ competitor? There were many proposals and suggestions made in
>> the past. I am sure you're aware of them, but I'd recommend new subscribers
>> go read the archives.
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>> On 03/08/2017 03:24 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> On 03/08/2017 02:02 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>>> one cannot release from labs
>>> Surely this is one of the points that we are here to debate, not merely
>>> accept as being a fact in stone?
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