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From Danny Angus <>
Subject Re: so what needs done round here?
Date Tue, 05 Apr 2016 23:53:29 GMT
I very much agree with everything you say here Rich.
When we started this it was to counter sourceforge, github has an even
lower barrier to entry, so it makes sense that we investigate lowering our
I wonder if the ASF/github integration could help us here? Who can we ask
about that?
I also see a lot of TLP's with local labs and sandboxes. Maybe theres
something we can offer these projects, e.g. internal publicity for R&D, and
a fair for commuters looking for a new project.
On 5 Apr 2016 9:42 p.m., "Rich Bowen" <> wrote:

> On 04/04/2016 11:51 AM, Danny Angus wrote:
> > So after I recklessly offered to step up and let Jan move on I started
> > wondering where labs was at, and had a look round at some stuff.
> >
> > I have a small amount of time to offer to the role, the PMC role, not
> > coding any particular lab, and I was wondering if anyone has a todo list
> of
> > admin and/or organisational tasks that they'd like me to pick up.
> >
> > From my own observations I have one suggestion
> >
> > My bugbear is the list of projects on the website, which I don't think is
> > very informative and doesn't even contain as much info as is in the
> > doap.rdf files. I'd propose to write a script or xslt or something to
> > generate the list from the doap files.
> >
> > I'd also like to chase down the PI on each lab and make sure that the
> > stauses are up-to-date.
> I would personally like to see Labs return to its roots - or, perhaps to
> what I originally understood it was to be. That is an easy place for
> Apache folks to spin up a test project. I feel that the barrier to entry
> is too high. We need to encourage people to start projects, without
> having to justify them. Right now, the default path is "make a project
> on github."
> Perhaps we need to step back a bit further and figure out what we're
> trying to do here, and why.
> Meanwhile, I want to start a project - an ASF version of what I'm doing
> at - and labs is the obvious
> place to do it. But my initial gut feeling is, way too much overhead,
> why bother?
> I'd like to figure out how we can make Labs a place where if an Apache
> member wants to start a project, they think of Labs first, rather than
> Github.
> Thoughts?
> --
> Rich Bowen - - @rbowen
> - @apachecon
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