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From Kai Kreuzer <...@openhab.org>
Subject Re: felix.fileinstall.enableConfigSave = false ignored?
Date Sat, 05 Nov 2016 21:24:58 GMT
Alright, so I think I go for moving the whole etc folder to a writable folder after all… Seems to be the simplest solution with the least surprises ;-)

Thanks!
Kai

> On 5 Nov 2016, at 22:17, Achim Nierbeck [via Karaf] <ml-node+s922171n4048584h4@n3.nabble.com> wrote:
> 
> ahh ... well. 
> It's one of those, is it a feature or is it a bug things ;) 
> For a lot of people it's a feature to have this automatically done for them through the config commands of karaf :-) [1]
> If you do this without the Karaf config command, the configuration isn't stored in the etc folder. This is 
> just for convenience, as a lot of people did get confused of why isn't it there, even though the config has just been created. 
>  
> 
> [1] - https://github.com/apache/karaf/blob/master/config/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/config/core/impl/ConfigRepositoryImpl.java#L41 <https://github.com/apache/karaf/blob/master/config/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/config/core/impl/ConfigRepositoryImpl.java#L41>
> 
> 
> 2016-11-05 21:49 GMT+01:00 Kai Kreuzer <[hidden email] <x-msg://68/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048584&i=0>>:
> Thanks Achim,
> 
> This is all pretty much my understanding as well, but I am still struggling to prevent having configs written to etc.
> 
> > what setting I need to change to prevent this flag being added to configurations?
> > that is felix.fileinstall.filename
> 
> This is not a setting I can do somewhere, is it? I see this property being set in all configs that are read from etc/*.cfg files - but this automatically means that fileinstall writes back any changes (e.g. through config:* commands) to those files.
> 
> > if you don't have the property felix.fileinstall.filename in the configuration, it shouldn't be persisted to the etc folder.
> > If you see a different behavior, I'd call it a bug. :-)
> 
> 
> Ok, so try this yourself:
> - Take a plain Karaf 4.0.7
> - Edit etc/config.properties and set felix.fileinstall.enableConfigSave = false
> - Start Karaf
> - Do
> karaf@root()> config:edit test
> karaf@root()> config:property-set test 123
> karaf@root()> config:update
> 
> - You will now find a new file etc/test.cfg with the content „test = 123“ - although this config definitely does NOT have any felix.fileinstall.filename property and although I have configured it to NOT write configs back.
> 
> Am I still missing something?
> 
> Regards,
> Kai
> 
> 
> > On 5 Nov 2016, at 15:36, Achim Nierbeck [via Karaf] <[hidden email] <x-msg://68/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048584&i=1>> wrote:
> >
> > see inline :)
> >
> > Hi again (I love rainly Saturday afternoons where all geeks are at their keyboard ;-)),
> >
> > hehe .. yes :-)
> >
> >
> > > I tried to use felix.cm.dir to point CM to a writable directory.
> > > if you don't change anything on this property, it's the default bundle cache directory.
> >
> > So you are saying setting felix.cm.dir should have some effect? I didn’t see any. Pointing it to some directory, nothing was written to it. I thought to have understood from JB that the only config files written in Karaf are the ones from ConfigRepository (which obviously does not care about felix.cm.dir)?
> >
> >  ... not exactly. Let me try to rephrase that :-)
> >
> > the felix.cm.dir is for ConfigurationAdmin service, if not set it's something like
> >
> > data/cache/0815/<dunno-the-name>/
> >
> > directory. The crucial part it's part of the cache, if not configured otherwise.
> >
> > Now, in regards of how ConfigurationAdminService and Felix FileInstall play along.
> > If FileInstall is configured to look for *.cfg files in a certain directory. The description of that is found here:
> > http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>
> >
> > In that case FileInstall will use my.own.service.pid.is.here.cfg file as configuration to be sent over to ConfigAdminService.
> > So FileInstall just reads this cfg file, interpretes the name of it as PID for the service and sends the properties over to ConfigAdminService so that one can do what ever is needed, usually re-configure some service.
> > This is not bound to the felix.xm.dir :)
> >
> >
> > >  if the configuration does contain a flag for "persisting" the configuraiton. This is a combination of FelixFileInstall with ConfigAdmin service.
> >
> > Do you have a concrete example of what setting I need to change to prevent this flag being added to configurations?
> >
> > that is
> >
> > felix.fileinstall.filename
> >
> > if you want to find out if it is set for a certain configuration you can look at the config know to ConfigurationAdmin service with the config:* commands. Like propery-list etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > > If you want to keep your own configuration separate and "not-persistent to Disk", use the <config> - part of a feature to
> > > define the configuration.
> >
> >
> > It is not „my own“ configuration that I want to keep separate, it is the user’s configuration that is done through directly accessing ConfigAdmin (through UIs, console, etc.) that I want to keep separate from the „static“ configuration of the Karaf-based product.
> >
> >
> > if you don't have the property felix.fileinstall.filename in the configuration, it shouldn't be persisted to the etc folder.
> > If you see a different behavior, I'd call it a bug. :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kai
> >
> >
> > > On 5 Nov 2016, at 13:20, Achim Nierbeck [via Karaf] <[hidden email] <x-msg://66/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://66/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048582&i=0>jtp?type=node&node=4048582&i= <x-msg://66/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048582&i=0>0 <x-msg://66/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048582&i=0>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Configuration Admin service does have an internal storage, that one is the ConfigRepository
> > >
> > > CM is from Felix, CR from Karaf - and it does not implement any interface from Felix. So how does CR become an internal storage of Felix CM?
> > >
> > > > I doubt you can make this one read-only as it's internal
> > >
> > > I don’t want to make this read-only, I tried to use felix.cm.dir to point CM to a writable directory.
> > >
> > > if you don't change anything on this property, it's the default bundle cache directory.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Make etc folder read-only that is possible
> > >
> > > How? I so far cannot see a possibility as CR seems to always write new configs in there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Only as, JB already noted, if the configuration does contain a flag for "persisting" the configuraiton. This is a combination of FelixFileInstall with ConfigAdmin service.
> > >
> > > > Use a different folder then $KARAF_HOME/etc
> > >
> > > This seems to be the only possible workaround for me right now, but I actually wanted to avoid poving the Karaf *.properties files as well to a writable folder and rather wanted to keep it „internal“ to my Karaf distribution (so that users do not even think about touching them).
> > >
> > >
> > > I've got to correct myself it's the KARAF_ETC property (http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files><http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>>)
> > > If you want to keep your own configuration separate and "not-persistent to Disk", use the <config> - part of a feature to
> > > define the configuration. As long as no configuration file is "attached" to that configuration it'll never be persisted to the etc folder.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kai
> > >
> > > > On 5 Nov 2016, at 12:12, Achim Nierbeck [via Karaf] <[hidden email] <x-msg://64/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://64/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048580&i=0>jtp?type=node&node=4048580&i= <x-msg://64/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048580&i=0>0 <x-msg://64/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048580&i=0>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kai,
> > > >
> > > > just re-read your first question.
> > > > I'm not sure if I got all questions right so let me try to explain what I got :)
> > > >
> > > > 1) Configuration Admin service does have an internal storage, that one is the ConfigRepository, I doubt you can make this one read-only as it's internal
> > > > 2) File-Install and CA are connected only by the property JB gave the description to, but the FileInstall part isn't part of ConfigRepository
> > > > 3) Make etc folder read-only that is possible
> > > > 4) have different etc folders, that is possible, part of FileInstall configuration.
> > > > 5) Use sub-folders of etc for your own configs, possible.
> > > > 6) Use a different folder then $KARAF_HOME/etc, it's possible just need to configure it via the start script or set-env.sh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards, Achim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2016-11-05 11:29 GMT+01:00 Kai Kreuzer <[hidden email] <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=0>jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i= <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=0>0 <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=0>>>:
> > > > How, can you elaborate on this? My goal is to have etc read-only (obviously including its sub-folders) and karaf.etc is currently hard-coded as the folder to store the configs.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Kai
> > > >
> > > > > On 5 Nov 2016, at 11:09, Achim Nierbeck [via Karaf] <[hidden email] <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=1>jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i= <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=1>1 <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=1>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You can use subfolders for a deportation of concern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Achim
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Samstag, 5. November 2016 schrieb Kai Kreuzer :
> > > > > Hi JB,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the insights.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what is not yet clear to me is how the ConfigRepository and the Felix ConfigurationAdmin interoperate.
> > > > > If I am not mistaken, Karaf uses the Felix ConfigurationAdmin implementation. From the docs of Felix CM, I see that it persists the configurations (i.e. does NOT only hold it in memory) and its location can be configured by the felix.cm.dir property. Is this whole mechanism disabled in Karaf and the ConfigRepository actually intercepts those calls?
> > > > >
> > > > > > I propose to introduce a user property to let you define the storage location or disable it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this would solve my issue - it would enable users to use different folders for reading configs through fileinstall and managing the overall ConfigAdmin settings in a different place.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably it would suffice to not hardcode System.getProperty("karaf.etc“) in ConfigRepository, but come up with a new property here, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Kai
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 5 Nov 2016, at 10:30, jbonofre [via Karaf] <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#[hidden email] <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=2>jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i= <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=2>2 <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=2>> <mailto:[hidden email] <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail. <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=3>jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i= <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=3>3 <x-msg://62/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4048578&i=3>>>&#39;)">ml-node+s922171n4048573h63@...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > let me explain a bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you create a config using ConfigAdmin (using the ConfigAdmin
> > > > > > service), it doesn't create a file (it's in "memory"). In that
> > > > > > situation, if any change is not persisted to a cfg file.
> > > > > > On the other hand, if you create a cfg file in Karaf etc folder, then
> > > > > > the corresponding ConfigAdmin configuration is created and implicitely
> > > > > > add a felix.fileinstall.filename property. Then, any change to the
> > > > > > configuration is flush back to the cfg file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, in Karaf, you have a feature that automatically create the
> > > > > > corresponding cfg file when you create a configuration. And after that,
> > > > > > we are on the "normal" behavior.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Karaf documentation is correct: when you have the
> > > > > > felix.fileinstall.filename property in a ConfigAdmin configuration, if
> > > > > > the enableConfigSave is true, it's flush back to cfg file, false doesn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The difference is when the configuration is create and without the
> > > > > > fileinstall.file property.
> > > > > > In the case, you may want to disable the "auto-create" cfg file done by
> > > > > > Karaf (ConfigRepository).
> > > > > > The ConfigRepository is create (in the config feature) like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ConfigRepository configRepository = new
> > > > > > ConfigRepositoryImpl(configurationAdmin, new
> > > > > > File(System.getProperty("karaf.etc")));
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The File is the storage, if null, Karaf doesn't do any storage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I propose to introduce a user property to let you define the storage
> > > > > > location or disable it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > JB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/04/2016 08:29 PM, Kai Kreuzer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just came across the same issue. I would like to treat the etc folder as
> > > > > > > read-only and thus prevent Karaf from doing changes to it. Nonetheless, I
> > > > > > > want to keep fileinstall to read configs from etc and push them to
> > > > > > > ConfigAdmin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would have expected this to work by merely setting
> > > > > > > "felix.fileinstall.enableConfigSave = false" - this is what the  Karaf (not
> > > > > > > fileinstall!) documentation <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files><https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files><https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files><https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files> <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files <https://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/#_files>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > suggests.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what can I do to achieve my goal? What does it mean to "use a null
> > > > > > > Storage"? What consequences does that have?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope you can help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Kai
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
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