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From PJR69 <petri.riipi...@insta.fi>
Subject RE: Best practise for deploying my app with Karaf
Date Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:21:15 GMT
Thank you for good comments!

I just noticed that there is a page about making Custom Distributions on the Karaf-website,
so I'm thinking that it might actually also be a reasonable way to go. This way we could package
the whole app as a single "sw appliance" to be deployed into a virtual machine for integration
testing and production.

- Petri

From: Christian Schneider [via Karaf] [mailto:ml-node+s922171n4026546h64@n3.nabble.com]
Sent: 23. lokakuuta 2012 14:10
To: Riipinen Petri
Subject: Re: Best practise for deploying my app with Karaf

When you install a kar file it is added as an additional repository for
karaf and the features are started.
So there is not much difference between a kar file and a company maven
repo when looking at how the application starts up.

The only downside to a kar file is if you have several applications with
shared dependencies. As you typically pack all dependencies into the kar
file you would
have a lot of duplication. As long as you only deploy one application it
should be no issue.

A feature is the right way to define an application in karaf. It is not
only for karaf extensions.

If you have the option you should still consider to setup a maven
repository manager and deploy from there. I think it is a great way to
connect your development process which ends in the maven repo to the
deployment which starts there.

About having a second container where you do the upgrades and then
switch. I think this is exactly the way to go for mission critical


On 10/23/2012 12:46 PM, PJR69 wrote:

> I'm working on an application that has roughly 6-8 OSGi-bundles written by
> us. Then we have around 40-50 OSGi-bundles as dependencies from our bundles.
> Our application environment will be internal network with no internet
> access. The Karaf-instances hosting the application will be running in quite
> restricted virtual machines that access database(s) and offer
> JMS/RMI/SOAP-endpoints for the clients. I don't think we will be able to
> setup any maven repositories.
> We do need to update the application from time to time and the application
> is pretty mission critical, needs to be running with 99.999+ availability.
> Currently I'm thinking that to update the application we would use parallel
> Karaf-instances. Something like "APPv1" as the initial child instance; and
> if we need to make some update/fix, we would create a new instance, like
> "APPv2" and then deploy all the new stuff there, bring it into production
> (with different endpoint addresses so it can co-exist for a short while with
> the APPv1) and then change all clients to use the new version and then
> shutdown and destroy the old version.
> So, what would be the best practise to deploy this application?
> My thoughts:
> - The quick'n'dirty way would be to just copy all jar-files to the
> Deploy-folder of Karaf. This doesn't feel very manageable wrt versioning and
> packaging. We need to be very exact wrt versions. Prolly works ok for
> development.
> - Create a KAR-file and make one "feature" of the application and include
> all dependencies inside the KAR-file.
> - Create a single jar-file and embed all dependencies into it.
> Currently the KAR-file feels like a way to go. But how about the concept of
> "feature", it feels like some "extension" into Karaf and not really an
> "application". But is it just semantics; would a feature from a KAR-file be
> as "real" of an application as any other application deployed as plain
> jar-files? Would our app lose any services/functionality of Karaf/OSGi if it
> would be deployed as a "feature" from KAR-file?
> All comments/ideas are highly appreciated.
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