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For greater efficiency, you may wish to convert to features (predefined 
groupings of bundles): 
http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.2.2/users-guide/provisioning.html so 
you can install one feature at once instead of installing 
bundle-by-bundle.  This will also speed up your redeployment process 
because it's easy to quickly drop and reinstall/reactivate all bundles 
making up a feature by using the up-and-down arrow keys (history keys) 
within the Karaf console after Maven has finished installing the updated 
bundles within your Maven repository.

Talend's open-source Integration Factory (providing a preconfigured wrap 
of Camel & Karaf), in its examples download[1], maintains a separate 
"features" project that holds the bundle information for each of the 
examples--actually, same story with the examples in Talend Service 
Factory (CXF) download.  This design allows you to keep all features 
configuration in a single place instead of with each subproject.

Eclipse should ideally just be for coding, as for not waiting for "the 
full Maven build", I would look into modularizing your work so that a 
Maven build of whatever subsystem you're working on won't take that much 
time.

HTH,
Glen

[1] http://www.talend.com/download.php#IF (User Documentation and 
Examples section).


On 07/22/2011 10:59 AM, Travis Klotz wrote:
> So what are developers that are building applications that will run in
> Karaf using for a development environment?  I'm going to be building a
> fairly large number of camel based OSGi bundles that will be running
> in Karaf.  Up to this point I have been building simple apps in
> eclipse, installing a bundle into my local maven repository and then
> starting up an external copy of Karaf and installing/updating the
> bundle using a mvn:XXXXX url.   For my experiments this has worked
> well enough, but it is a bit of a long feedback loop.   What are other
> people doing for an application development setup?   Is there any way
> to not have to leave eclpse or wait for a full maven build for each
> build/deploy iteration?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Travis


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Glen Mazza
Application Integration Division
Talend (http://www.talend.com/ai)
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