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From Johan Edstrom <seij...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Aries and Karaf
Date Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:30:54 GMT
No, not at all (Wrong direction)
The learning curve may be a tad steep for the first project, once you are over that hurdle
- you'll have gained a bunch of knowledge.

From the karaf side, you get a great runtime and nice management tools around the osgi container,

with the Aries projects you get things like JPA, TX, JNDI that conforms to how things work
in an osgi environment.

You can use hibernate as well, but having used both in anger :) I;d suggest using the aries
JPA, aries TX in combination
with OpenJPA. This also implies that you use aries blueprint, which will save you plenty headaches
as opposed to using spring-dm
in a complex environment.

A good start is looking at the itests bundles and setups in the aries code. I think there
also is a JPA blog sample that would
be a good reference.

On the karaf side I'd recommend reading up a bit around the features, learning that will make
things clearer I think.

On Apr 21, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Tario wrote:

> Ok, that makes sense. Is there any tutorial/manual how I actually do this?
> Do I fetch all those bundles by hand from somewhere and also copy them to
> the deploy folder?
> Maybe to explain my problems in this a bit better.
> On the one hand I've worked with osgi a bit before, but this was in a very
> small context with a couple of dependencies that were all very clear from my
> side.
> On the other hand I've worked with the java EE stack where certain services
> are given (such as JPA).
> Now I'd like to create an application that consists of an api (xmlrpc) some
> business logic and some persistency.
> The entprise osgi standard sounded to me good in a way that it would combine
> the best of the two sides, osgi for managing my dependencies and still
> provide persistency service.
> Am I going the wrong direction? Is there a better/simpler solution?
> Thanks,
> Patrick
> Johan Edstrom-2 wrote:
>> The core blueprint bundles are.
>> But Karaf is a small runtime, you'll have to provide the necessary
>> components to your deployment 
>> just as you would if you were using tomcat/jetty.
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