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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: Help to get out of pax-web from karaf distribution
Date Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:16:26 GMT
Hi,

That's the difference between minimal and standard distributions.

We can have an even "small" minimal distribution, removing the 
enterprise and other standard features repos.

That's the way to go IMHO.

Regards
JB

On 05/12/2018 12:21, Christian Schneider wrote:
> I think this points to an interesting problem in current karaf.
> Karaf comes with some feature repos installed and even with some features
> installed.
> This is very good for learning karaf but it is not good when you build and
> maintain your application.
> 
> Things that we currently make hard to do:
> - You have an application that is based on karaf features as well as other
> features. It is quite hard to update your application to a new karaf as it
> brings a lot of feature updates that you might not want.
> - Switch some implementations. For Sai wanted to not install pax web. In my
> recent case I wanted to update blueprint core.
> 
> I think many of these problems come from the way karaf features are offered:
> - Many features are versioned together with karaf. So when you update karaf
> you get new versions of the features / bundles even if you do not want them.
> - Some karaf features combine too many unrelated things. E.g the enterprise
> feature repo combines jpa, jms, peristence providers. Sometimes even
> different versions of these.
> 
> I think we can fix a lot of this by moving as many features as possible to
> the projects where the bundles come from. E.g Aries jpa already provides a
> features. This allows to use any karaf version and install any jpa version
> on it. Unfortunately this does not work in practice as the feature needs
> transactions as well as blueprint that are part of karaf itself.
> 
> So I think we should move more features out of karaf and into the
> individual projects.
> Of course we must give these repos nice aliases so they are still easy to
> install.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb Sai Sankar <
> saisankar.c@motivitylabs.com>:
> 
>> Hi All
>>
>> I dont want Pax-web features to be installed or installable with KARAF
>> 4.2.0. Tried Standard and minimal distributions too, but either way it is
>> installing pax-web features.
>>
>> Karaf Version is  : 4.2
>>
>> pax-web-core                    | 7.0.0            |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide Core pax-web bundles
>> pax-jetty                       | 9.4.6.v20170531  |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide Jetty engine support
>> pax-jetty-http2                 | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Optional additional feature to run
>> Jetty with SPDY
>> pax-http-jetty                  | 7.0.0            |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           |
>> pax-http                        | 7.0.0            |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Implementation of the OSGI HTTP
>> Service
>> pax-http-whiteboard             | 7.0.0            |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide HTTP Whiteboard pattern
>> support
>> pax-war                         | 7.0.0            |          | Started
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide support of a full
>> WebContainer
>> pax-http-tomcat                 | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide Tomcat support
>> pax-war-tomcat                  | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           |
>> pax-jsf-support                 | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           |
>> pax-jsf-resources-support       | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           | Provide sharing of resources
>> according
>> to Servlet
>> undertow                        | 1.4.23.Final     |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           |
>> pax-http-undertow               | 7.0.0            |          | Uninstalled
>> | org.ops4j.pax.web-7.0.0           |
>>
>>
>> is there any way to skip installing pax-web features in karaf
>> -distribution.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sai
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-Dev-f930721.html
>>
> 
> 

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