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From Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org>
Subject Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP
Date Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:00:53 GMT
2018-04-09 11:42 GMT+02:00 Francois Papon <francois.papon@openobject.fr>:

> Hi Guillaume,
>
> Can you explain why you think it's not a good thing for Karaf ?
>

Because from an OSGi pov, it's not really possible to involve the Karaf
community, so if the community is not fully involved, I don't see how it
could be beneficial to it.   The OSGi Alliance is not an open source
organization, so things are developed internally amongst the OSGi members,
and you have to be an OSGi member in order to have any saying (we'll you
can always raise issues but you have no saying, really).

My fear is that we'll end up with a trimmed down version of what Karaf
actually supports (hopefully not without incompatible things) and that we
will be pressured to support it, and it may lead us to directions we may
have not pursued otherwise.

For example, blueprint is under specified and we have to work harder in
order to add things that are outside the standard.  Though, given the OSGi
Alliance is somewhat abandoning blueprint, I think my next move on this
area will be to get rid of the standard and just use an aries specific
schema instead (enhanced, but without having to use a difference schema for
the extensions).

But I hope I'll be proved wrong.


>
> François
>
>
> Le 09/04/2018 à 13:35, Guillaume Nodet a écrit :
> > I was not in any way aware of this RFP and I'm not part of the process,
> but
> > this looks really inspired from Karaf Features at least.
> > The author, David B. is a Karaf committer, so he may be able to comment
> on
> > what he has in mind.
> >
> > Having said that, I'm not so sure it's a good thing for Karaf, but we'll
> > see. Hopefully things will go well this time, but I've already seen
> several
> > things go wrong at the OSGi EEG...
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> > 2018-04-09 11:07 GMT+02:00 Serge Huber <shuber@jahia.com>:
> >
> >> Interesting ! Is it planned to be based on Karaf Features model ?
> >>
> >> cheers,
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> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> See https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfps/rfp-
> >> 0188-Features.pdf
> >>> --
> >>> ------------------------
> >>> Guillaume Nodet
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>


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