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From Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Karaf 4.0.5 release (take 2)
Date Wed, 06 Apr 2016 15:01:04 GMT
Thanks for patience!

regards
Grzegorz

2016-04-06 14:57 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:

> Thanks man (as discussed on IRC ;)).
>
> I will review the PR and deal with the Aries releases.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 04/06/2016 02:45 PM, Grzegorz Grzybek wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> OK, I have a fix and here's an explanation.
>> First (ARIES-1290), following Java relationship of
>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.compendium.cm.CmPropertyPlaceholder and
>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.ext.PropertyPlaceholder I wanted to reflect
>> this
>> fact at XSD level, so we could mix cm and ext namespace elements.
>> Then (ARIES-1503) there was a fix for situations, where XSDs were read for
>> CmNamespaceHandler before ExtNamespaceHandler managed to register itself
>> in
>> NamespaceRegistryImpl.
>>
>> And finally (now) the fix (after adding
>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler2#mayResolve() method) is more
>> conservative - we can resolve not registered namespaces using those
>> handlers that return true in their implementation of
>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler2#mayResolve() - and there'll
>> be
>> (now) only one such handler - for cm namespace.
>>
>> I'm preparing PR.
>>
>> best regards and I'm very sorry for delay of the release!
>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>
>> 2016-04-06 11:50 GMT+02:00 Kevin Carr <kscarr73@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I agree option 2.  Best to delay and fix.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, 4:49 AM Achim Nierbeck <bcanhome@googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah option 2 sounds best, so here's my -1 on this release ... a major
>>>>
>>> bug
>>>
>>>> shouldn't go into any production, especially if we know of it.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-04-06 9:47 GMT+02:00 Markus Rathgeb <maggu2810@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> +1 for option 2
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-04-06 8:48 GMT+02:00 Sobkowiak Krzysztof <
>>>>>
>>>> krzys.sobkowiak@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer the option 2 as well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Krzysztof
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06.04.2016 08:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Cristiano,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think it's related, as the issue in about blueprint-ext
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> namespace (not even define). The problem is located in Aries
>>>>> Blueprint.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gonna deal with Guillaume.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can:
>>>>>>> 0. leave Karaf 4.0.5 as it is, but I think it's not acceptable:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> blueprint is used by lot of users, and we can't allow a release
>>>>>
>>>> without a
>>>
>>>> working blueprint layer.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. downgrade Karaf to Aries Blueprint 1.5.x: unfortunately, we won't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> benefit about some improvements implemented in blueprint
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. revert or fix the change in Aries: it means we would need a new
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aries Blueprint core release, so 3 days vote, meaning that we won't
be
>>>>>
>>>> able
>>>>
>>>>> to release Karaf before roughly 6 days.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My preference is on 2 even if it delays Karaf 4.0.5 release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add an Integration Test on blueprint to avoid such problem
in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/06/2016 08:14 AM, Cristiano Costantini wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi JB and Krzysztof,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if this can be have any impact on the problem
you have
>>>>>>>> reported, but about 1 month ago I got into an issue with
camel XSD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> schemas
>>>>>
>>>>>> for Camel namespaces, and the issue is that the URL of the latest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> XSD,
>>>>
>>>>> http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint/camel-blueprint.xsd
>>>>>>>> is not from latest version 2.16.2, but it is from version
2.15.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While upgrading to ServiceMix 7, I had to change manually
the XML
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://camel.apache.org/schema/spring
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://camel
>>>>
>>>>> .apache.org/schema/spring/camel-spring-2.16.1.xsd" in order to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> make
>>>
>>>> it work
>>>>>
>>>>>> (note also that SMX 7 is based on camel 2.16.2, but this XSD is not
>>>>>>>> available)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But in fact the only problem I had was that Eclipse validation
and
>>>>>>>> autocompletion of the XML files was not working properly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if this is not relevant, please ignore this message ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cristiano
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il giorno mar 5 apr 2016 alle ore 22:19 Jean-Baptiste Onofré
<
>>>>>>>> jb@nanthrax.net> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried with Camel 2.16.2, camel-blueprint, and simple route
in
>>>>>>>>> blueprint: it works fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried with your XML, and actually I have the same problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like a Aries Blueprint bug. Let me try if I
downgrade to
>>>>>>>>> blueprint 1.5.x and check the change in aries blueprint
(I know
>>>>>>>>> Guillaume did some enhancements & changes).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Honestly, I would consider as a blocker for the release,
so, I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will
>>>
>>>> probably revert my vote to -1. I just want to make more tests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2016 09:46 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried to upgrade ServiceMix to the new version
and have several
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> problems with blueprint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-05 21:42:05,485 | INFO  | pool-46-thread-1
|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 9 -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.core
>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4.0.5 |   cxf-wsn-receive/7.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-05 21:42:05,567 | ERROR | pool-46-thread-1
|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl           | 28 -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.core -
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.6.0 | Unable to start blueprint container for bundle
>>>>>>>>> cxf-wsn-receive/7.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: src-import.3.1: The
namespace
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> attribute, '
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0', of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> <import> element information item must be identical to the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> targetNamespace
>>>>>
>>>>>> attribute, 'http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint', of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> imported
>>>>>
>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.error(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.parseSchema(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-05 21:31:36,969 | ERROR | pool-42-thread-1
|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl           | 28 -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.core -
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.6.0 | Unable to start blueprint container for bundle
>>>>>>>>> drools-camel-cxf-server/7.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: src-import.3.1: The
namespace
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> attribute, '
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cxf.apache.org/configuration/beans', of an <import>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> element
>>>
>>>> information item must be identical to the targetNamespace
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> attribute, '
>>>>
>>>>> http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint', of the imported
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.error(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here my try to reproduce one of them in K405
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assume you have following simple blueprint (I have
reduced one of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> blueprints from the examples)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <blueprint xmlns="http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0"
>>>>>>>>>>               xmlns:xsi="
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
>>>
>>>>               xmlns:cm="
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-cm/v1.1.0"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               xsi:schemaLocation="
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0
>>>>>>>>> http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0/blueprint.xsd">
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        <!-- AdminConfig property place holder
for the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.servicemix.examples.cxf.receive"  -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        <cm:property-placeholder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> persistent-id="org.apache.servicemix.examples.cxf.receive"
>>>>>>>>> update-strategy="reload">
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>            <cm:default-properties>
>>>>>>>>>>                <cm:property name="endpoint" value="
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://localhost:12345/test/"/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                <cm:property name="topic" value="MyTopic"
/>
>>>>>>>>>>            </cm:default-properties>
>>>>>>>>>>        </cm:property-placeholder>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        <camelContext xmlns="
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint
>>>>
>>>>> ">
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        </camelContext>
>>>>>>>>>> </blueprint>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> karaf@root()> feature:repo-add camel 2.16.2
>>>>>>>>>> Adding feature url
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.16.2/xml/features
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> karaf@root()> feature:install camel-blueprint
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deploy the blueprint into deploy directory (the same
problem
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> occurs
>>>
>>>> when
>>>>>
>>>>>> the blueprint is part of a bundle). Tho log contains following
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> error
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-05 21:15:47,932 | INFO  | raf-4.0.5/deploy
| fileinstall
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 | 8 - org.apache.felix.fileinstall -
3.5.4 |
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Installing
>>>>
>>>>> bundle x.xml / 0.0.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-05 21:15:48,216 | ERROR | raf-4.0.5/deploy
|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl           | 13 -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.core -
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.6.0 | Unable to start blueprint container for bundle x.xml/0.0.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: src-import.3.1: The
namespace
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> attribute, '
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0', of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> <import> element information item must be identical to the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> targetNamespace
>>>>>
>>>>>> attribute, 'http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint', of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> imported
>>>>>
>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.error(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.reportSchemaError(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.constructTrees(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.traversers.XSDHandler.parseSchema(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.XMLSchemaLoader.loadSchema(Unknown
>>>>
>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.XMLSchemaLoader.loadGrammar(Unknown
>>>>>
>>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xerces.impl.xs.XMLSchemaLoader.loadGrammar(Unknown
>>>>>
>>>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> org.apache.xerces.jaxp.validation.XMLSchemaFactory.newSchema(Unknown
>>>
>>>> Source)[:]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The same happens with Camel 2.17.0.
>>>>>>>>>> This error didn't occur in K404. I think, it can
be caused by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> upgrade to
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aries Blueprint 1.6.0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please, correct me if I'm missing something I should
do after
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>
>>>> upgrade. But when it's a new issue introduced by upgrade to Aries
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blueprint
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.6.0 the people using Camel with Karaf will not be happy with the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>> version. ServiceMix will be broken too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to vote with -1, non-binding, but I'm giving
-0. Please
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> decide,
>>>>>
>>>>>> whether this is issue which should stop the release.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kindly regards
>>>>>>>>>> Krzysztof
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 04.04.2016 22:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I submit Karaf Container 4.0.5 release to your
vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Release Note:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12311140&version=12334629
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Staging Repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekaraf-1060/
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Git tag:
>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-4.0.5
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Don't approve the release (please provide
specific
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comments)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Krzysztof Sobkowiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect
>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/)
>>>>>> Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://servicemix.apache.org/)
>>>>
>>>>> Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Apache Member
>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
>>>>
>>> &
>>>
>>>> Project Lead
>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>
>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

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