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From Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Karaf Decanter 1.1.0 release
Date Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:45:12 GMT
Hi JB,

fine with me. I didn't want to be pushy about this. I just think, with a
new minor version we need some shiny new things ;)

regards, Achim


2016-04-01 0:43 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:

> Hi Achim,
>
> I like your idea: the dashboards can be pushed by the kibana 4 feature
> directly in elasticsearch. The kibana4 feature can have a FeatureListener
> that "push" the default dashboards as soon as the corresponding collector
> feature is installed.
>
> It's not so hard to do. So, I propose to cancel this vote, and I add this
> feature. I will submit a new vote with that.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 03/31/2016 08:28 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>> I'm not really impressed by this 1.1.0 release ... I was expecting a bit
>> more.
>> Don't know why we are in such a hurry here, with a 1.1.0 release I'd
>> expect
>> some fancy new stuff that is actually working.
>> I've understand that Kibana 4 does treat custom dashboards differently
>> then
>> Kibana 3.
>>  From my point of view I would expect that we install such dashboards
>> depending on environment.
>> For example we could create specialized bundle which installs the
>> dashboard
>> if kibana 4 is present and the corresponding appenders are present.
>>
>> But as I'm not of big help here right now, I'll do a +0
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-31 13:37 GMT+02:00 Morgan Hautman <morgan.hautman@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I think the simple update should be enough, no need to relaunch a release
>>> if no new jira's will be added...
>>>
>>> 2016-03-31 13:28 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>
>>> OK, I understand the problem: the decanter.json contains all
>>>> visualizations and dashboards for Karaf, Camel, ActiveMQ.
>>>> The problem is if the index doesn't contain some fields (like Camel
>>>> ExchangeCompleted for instance), then, the objects can't be imported.
>>>>
>>>> So, instead of providing a "big" decanter.json config, we should provide
>>>> one per dashbords group the user wants (decanter-kibana-karaf.json,
>>>> decanter-kibana-camel.json, decanter-kibana-activemq.json, ...).
>>>> In that case, I don't think it makes sense to provide it in the etc
>>>> folder, but directly on Central or website where the user can download
>>>> it
>>>> on demand.
>>>>
>>>> I can cancel this release, or, I can simply update the documentation and
>>>> publish the json files and let the vote roll on.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/30/2016 08:44 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi JB,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read that and that's rather sadening to see, as we reduce the set
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>
>>>> benefits of running an embedded Kibana.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never the less, I tried to import this and it didn't work for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-03-30 18:13 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Achim:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Extracted from the documentation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "
>>>>>> As Kibana 4 stores all resources (queries, visualization charts,
>>>>>> dashboards) in Elasticsearch, we can’t provide default dashboards
"out
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>
>>>> the box".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, create a default index (in Settings→Indices) just containing
*
>>>>>>
>>>>> as
>>>
>>>> pattern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, we provide a decanter.json file that you can import in Kibana
>>>>>> (in
>>>>>> the Settings→Objects menu).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you install the kibana 4.x feature, it automatically provides
the
>>>>>> decanter.json file in the Apache Karaf etc folder. In Kibana, you
can
>>>>>> directly import using etc/decanter.json file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once decanter.json has been imported, you will see default dashboards
>>>>>> provided by Decanter.
>>>>>> "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see: "first create a default instance just containing * as
>>>>>> pattern", then "import etc/decanter.json".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, as Kibana 4.x stores all configuration in
>>>>>> elasticsearch,
>>>>>> it's the minimum steps to perform. Kibana 3.x directly reads the
>>>>>> configuration from the json (not from elasticsearch), that's why
I
>>>>>> shipped
>>>>>> default dashboards "easily").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/30/2016 06:10 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi JB,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1, yes I installed the Kibana 4.1 feature. Do you mean we don't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>> default Dashboards anymore like we previously did?
>>>>>>> This sounds like a bad idea to me, we can't really reduce the
feature
>>>>>>> set.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. ok, did change to the other version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. no I did install the elasticsearch feature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This reduced the 100% CPU load, but still the Kibana Dashboard
>>>>>>> The import of the default.json doesn't seem to work either:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saved Objects: Could not locate that index-pattern-field (id:
>>>>>>> ExchangesCompleted)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-03-30 17:43 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. For Kibana, you use Kibana 4.1.x feature (as you don't
specify
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> version). Did you check the documentation to see how to install
the
>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>> dashboard with kibana 4.1.x and the new features version:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/karaf-decanter/blob/master/manual/src/main/asciidoc/user-guide/collectors.adoc
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. decanter-appender-elasticsearch feature is an alias to
the
>>>>>>>> decanter-appender-elasticsearch-native-1.x feature, which
works only
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> elasticsearch 1.x instance (not with elasticsearch 2.x).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. I don't see the elasticsearch feature installed, I guess
you use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>
>>>> external elasticsearch instance ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/30/2016 05:37 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi I just gave this version a try, and it doesn't work for
me :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all I have 100% CPU, second the Kibana Dashboard
doesn't
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> seem
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work as I need to specify a  default index pattern.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the list of features I installed:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> feature:install elasticsearch-head kibana
>>>>>>>>> decanter-appender-elasticsearch
>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-log decanter-collector-eventadmin
>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-jmx
>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-system
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After about 10 min running it seems to produce OOMs,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so here's my -1, we can't release such a version :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-30 16:13 GMT+02:00 Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Serge Huber <shuber@jahia.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 mars 2016, at 08:17, Andrea Cosentino
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <ancosen1985@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrea Cosentino
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Servicemix Committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @oscerd2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Github: oscerd
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 28, 2016 3:18 PM, Christian
Schneider <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> chris@die-schneider.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non binding)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-28 10:52 GMT+02:00 Morgan <morgan.hautman@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-03-28 10:09, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I submit the Decanter 1.1.0 release to
your vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release Notes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12311140&version=12334862
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Staging Repository:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekaraf-1058/
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not approve the release
(please provide specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for 72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Schneider
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://owa.talend.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=3aa4083e0c744ae1ba52bd062c5a7e46&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.liquid-reality.de
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Architect
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://owa.talend.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=3aa4083e0c744ae1ba52bd062c5a7e46&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.talend.com
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>



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