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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Karaf Decanter 1.1.0 release
Date Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:47:50 GMT
Fair enough.

Let me do that ;)

Regards
JB

On 04/01/2016 12:45 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> fine with me. I didn't want to be pushy about this. I just think, with a
> new minor version we need some shiny new things ;)
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2016-04-01 0:43 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>
>> Hi Achim,
>>
>> I like your idea: the dashboards can be pushed by the kibana 4 feature
>> directly in elasticsearch. The kibana4 feature can have a FeatureListener
>> that "push" the default dashboards as soon as the corresponding collector
>> feature is installed.
>>
>> It's not so hard to do. So, I propose to cancel this vote, and I add this
>> feature. I will submit a new vote with that.
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 03/31/2016 08:28 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>> I'm not really impressed by this 1.1.0 release ... I was expecting a bit
>>> more.
>>> Don't know why we are in such a hurry here, with a 1.1.0 release I'd
>>> expect
>>> some fancy new stuff that is actually working.
>>> I've understand that Kibana 4 does treat custom dashboards differently
>>> then
>>> Kibana 3.
>>>   From my point of view I would expect that we install such dashboards
>>> depending on environment.
>>> For example we could create specialized bundle which installs the
>>> dashboard
>>> if kibana 4 is present and the corresponding appenders are present.
>>>
>>> But as I'm not of big help here right now, I'll do a +0
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-03-31 13:37 GMT+02:00 Morgan Hautman <morgan.hautman@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I think the simple update should be enough, no need to relaunch a release
>>>> if no new jira's will be added...
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-31 13:28 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>>
>>>> OK, I understand the problem: the decanter.json contains all
>>>>> visualizations and dashboards for Karaf, Camel, ActiveMQ.
>>>>> The problem is if the index doesn't contain some fields (like Camel
>>>>> ExchangeCompleted for instance), then, the objects can't be imported.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, instead of providing a "big" decanter.json config, we should provide
>>>>> one per dashbords group the user wants (decanter-kibana-karaf.json,
>>>>> decanter-kibana-camel.json, decanter-kibana-activemq.json, ...).
>>>>> In that case, I don't think it makes sense to provide it in the etc
>>>>> folder, but directly on Central or website where the user can download
>>>>> it
>>>>> on demand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can cancel this release, or, I can simply update the documentation
and
>>>>> publish the json files and let the vote roll on.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/30/2016 08:44 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi JB,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've read that and that's rather sadening to see, as we reduce the
set
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> benefits of running an embedded Kibana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never the less, I tried to import this and it didn't work for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-03-30 18:13 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Achim:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Extracted from the documentation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>> As Kibana 4 stores all resources (queries, visualization charts,
>>>>>>> dashboards) in Elasticsearch, we can’t provide default dashboards
"out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> the box".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First, create a default index (in Settings→Indices) just containing
*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>> pattern.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, we provide a decanter.json file that you can import
in Kibana
>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>> the Settings→Objects menu).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you install the kibana 4.x feature, it automatically provides
the
>>>>>>> decanter.json file in the Apache Karaf etc folder. In Kibana,
you can
>>>>>>> directly import using etc/decanter.json file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once decanter.json has been imported, you will see default dashboards
>>>>>>> provided by Decanter.
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can see: "first create a default instance just containing
* as
>>>>>>> pattern", then "import etc/decanter.json".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as Kibana 4.x stores all configuration in
>>>>>>> elasticsearch,
>>>>>>> it's the minimum steps to perform. Kibana 3.x directly reads
the
>>>>>>> configuration from the json (not from elasticsearch), that's
why I
>>>>>>> shipped
>>>>>>> default dashboards "easily").
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/30/2016 06:10 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi JB,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1, yes I installed the Kibana 4.1 feature. Do you mean we
don't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> default Dashboards anymore like we previously did?
>>>>>>>> This sounds like a bad idea to me, we can't really reduce
the feature
>>>>>>>> set.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. ok, did change to the other version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. no I did install the elasticsearch feature
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This reduced the 100% CPU load, but still the Kibana Dashboard
>>>>>>>> The import of the default.json doesn't seem to work either:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saved Objects: Could not locate that index-pattern-field
(id:
>>>>>>>> ExchangesCompleted)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-03-30 17:43 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. For Kibana, you use Kibana 4.1.x feature (as you don't
specify
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> version). Did you check the documentation to see how
to install the
>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>> dashboard with kibana 4.1.x and the new features version:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/karaf-decanter/blob/master/manual/src/main/asciidoc/user-guide/collectors.adoc
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. decanter-appender-elasticsearch feature is an alias
to the
>>>>>>>>> decanter-appender-elasticsearch-native-1.x feature, which
works only
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> elasticsearch 1.x instance (not with elasticsearch 2.x).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. I don't see the elasticsearch feature installed, I
guess you use
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> external elasticsearch instance ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/30/2016 05:37 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi I just gave this version a try, and it doesn't work
for me :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all I have 100% CPU, second the Kibana Dashboard
doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> work as I need to specify a  default index pattern.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the list of features I installed:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> feature:install elasticsearch-head kibana
>>>>>>>>>> decanter-appender-elasticsearch
>>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-log decanter-collector-eventadmin
>>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-jmx
>>>>>>>>>> decanter-collector-system
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After about 10 min running it seems to produce OOMs,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so here's my -1, we can't release such a version
:(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-30 16:13 GMT+02:00 Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Serge Huber <shuber@jahia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 mars 2016, at 08:17, Andrea Cosentino
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ancosen1985@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrea Cosentino
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Committer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Servicemix Committer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @oscerd2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github: oscerd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 28, 2016 3:18 PM, Christian
Schneider <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chris@die-schneider.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-28 10:52 GMT+02:00 Morgan <morgan.hautman@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-03-28 10:09, Jean-Baptiste
Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I submit the Decanter 1.1.0 release
to your vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release Notes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12311140&version=12334862
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Staging Repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekaraf-1058/
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not approve the release
(please provide specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for 72
hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Schneider
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://owa.talend.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=3aa4083e0c744ae1ba52bd062c5a7e46&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.liquid-reality.de
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Architect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://owa.talend.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=3aa4083e0c744ae1ba52bd062c5a7e46&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

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